Noisy... the M series are dual pol so they require both polarities to be clean
Gino A. Villarini [email protected] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of AJ Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 2:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT "M" Was: Ubiquiti made no points today Here is the upper portion of the band running Airview - it's roughly the same across the entire 2.3-2.7 band that the NS2M can scan, of course significantly higher centered on US channels 6 and 11... hopefully the PDF flows through correctly... View from the NS2M at the power supply cabinet (next to the subdivision) Site Survey Scanned Frequencies: 2.412GHz 2.417GHz 2.422GHz 2.427GHz 2.432GHz 2.437GHz 2.442GHz 2.447GHz 2.452GHz 2.457GHz 2.462GHz Scanning, please wait... MAC Address SSID Device Name Encryption Signal / Noise, dBm Frequency, GHz Channel 00:21:29:66:C6:D7 Mada WPA2 -63 / -82 2.412 1 00:23:EE:28:9B:D1 OurMaddie WPA -71 / -82 2.412 1 00:24:7B:04:FA:66 myqwest6245 WPA -67 / -82 2.412 1 00:19:E4:4C:F9:49 HelloMoto WPA -56 / -82 2.412 1 00:18:84:81:A2:79 ASGARD WPA2 -76 / -84 2.427 4 00:19:7D:05:8A:28 My PS3 WPA -75 / -85 2.437 6 00:21:D7:90:80:10 WPA2 -59 / -85 2.437 6 00:1C:FB:FD:CB:D0 qwestJONES WPA -74 / -84 2.447 8 00:12:17:62:58:69 HelloMoto2G WPA -68 / -85 2.462 11 00:15:A3:E5:15:70 Blacklab34 WPA -58 / -85 2.462 11 00:1F:CA:26:F6:C6 WPA2 -20 / -85 2.462 11 00:21:D7:90:7C:E0 WPA2 -51 / -85 2.462 11 00:24:7B:14:D6:56 myqwest5589 WPA -70 / -85 2.462 11 00:00:00:00:00:00 WEP -71 / -82 2.412 1 00:14:A5:30:06:5C Motorola NONE -70 / -82 2.412 1 00:22:75:46:BB:D4 Belkin_N_Wireless_46bbd4 NONE -72 / -85 2.432 5 00:21:29:95:3A:67 John NONE -81 / -85 2.437 6 00:21:00:5C:2D:35 Home WEP -80 / -85 2.437 6 00:0C:41:96:68:AE linksys WEP -72 / -85 2.437 6 00:24:B2:76:6A:10 tmobile hotspot WEP -73 / -84 2.447 8 00:15:05:36:DA:8B ACTIONTEC WEP -70 / -84 2.452 9 00:24:7B:35:A1:54 myqwest4705 WEP -63 / -85 2.462 11 00:00:00:00:00:00 WEP -62 / -85 2.462 11 00:14:6C:94:B6:00 Barbara NONE -71 / -85 2.462 11 Scan from the remote employee's house facing the 2 new subdivisions: Site Survey Scanned Frequencies: 2.412GHz 2.417GHz 2.422GHz 2.427GHz 2.432GHz 2.437GHz 2.442GHz 2.447GHz 2.452GHz 2.457GHz 2.462GHz Scanning, please wait... MAC Address SSID Device Name Encryption Signal / Noise, dBm Frequency, GHz Channel 00:1B:5B:99:09:A1 Oliver WPA -71 / -83 2.412 1 00:1E:E5:FA:89:97 Less work for me WPA2 -75 / -83 2.412 1 00:17:3F:57:53:B0 Revelation WPA -60 / -83 2.437 6 00:22:3F:65:D9:6A MotoxChris WPA -60 / -83 2.437 6 00:21:D7:90:80:10 WPA2 -61 / -83 2.437 6 00:22:3F:A6:E7:85 NETGEAR WPA -65 / -81 2.417 2 00:15:6D:FA:63:85 UBNT-AP UBNT-AP WPA2 -62 / -85 2.452 9 00:23:EE:28:9B:D1 OurMaddie WPA -78 / -83 2.412 1 00:18:F8:B8:AB:86 19darne57 WEP -77 / -83 2.437 6 00:16:B6:45:69:4D Ralphs WEP -71 / -83 2.437 6 00:13:10:69:BE:A8 linksys NONE -76 / -85 2.422 3 00:21:29:95:3A:67 John NONE -72 / -83 2.437 6 On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Gino Villarini <[email protected]> wrote: > If you are using the latest fw, use the airview spectrum analyzer to see > your local noise > > Gino A. Villarini > [email protected] > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > 787.273.4143 > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of AJ > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 1:24 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT "M" Was: Ubiquiti made no points today > > I'm on the latest beta firmware... > > And swapping out $200 worth of gear to play on another band is > frustrating... > > On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Faisal Imtiaz > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > Two suggestions... Upgrade to the beta firmware and see if it helps > > > > other... consider doing NS5M, if 2.4 is crowded... > > > > Faisal. > > > > On 4/14/2010 1:08 PM, AJ wrote: > > > Wish I could get speeds like that :) > > > > > > Have a pair of NS2Ms set up right on on a P2P link to bridge between > a > > > DOCSIS modem in a power supply cabinet to an employee that lives 3/4 > mi > > away > > > LoS and can barely keep it up to 13 meg up/down... Running the > latest > > > Beta... Doesn't help the noise floor bounces around -85 to -80 all > day > > long > > > (I can see 26 different consumer routers from both sides of the > link) > > from > > > the nearby subdivision... > > > On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Joe Miller<[email protected] > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > >> Holy crap....where do I get one of those. That is one hell of a > link you > > >> have there. > > >> > > >> Joe Miller > > >> DSLbyAir, LLC > > >> 228-831-8881 > > >> www.dslbyair.com > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "Greg Ihnen"<[email protected]> > > >> To: "WISPA General List"<[email protected]> > > >> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 11:59 AM > > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT "M" Was: Ubiquiti made no points today > > >> > > >> > > >> Do you mean like this? Notice the rssi on the lower pic. These > are two > > >> NS5Ms > > >> setup as a backhaul. I was assuming the rssi is being wrongly > reported > > >> since > > >> the TX/RX is 162/162. If the rssi was for real wouldn't one chain > be > > >> reporting a very low connection speed, right? I'm getting 162Mbps > on > > both > > >> directions. > > >> > > >> This is one end of backhaul, this NS5M running station wds: rssi > -51/-56 > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -------- > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>> > > >>> This is the other NS5M running ap wds: rssi -51/-94 > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -------- > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On Apr 14, 2010, at 11:11 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >>> ...not using MIMO mode ... ? what antenna are you using ? > > >>> > > >>> Using the Rocket M5 without the Ubiquiti Antenna's is like driving > a > > >>> sports car with all flat tires :) > > >>> > > >>> There is a good documentation on the UBNT forum on how to verify > the > > >>> bad/defective units.... > > >>> Testing them , have two units sync/link to each other, reduce the > > power, > > >>> little bit at a time.. you will see a 6 to 9db difference on the > two > > >>> chains (Hpol/Vpol)... normal units will show either the same > signal > > >>> level or off by a couple of db's.. > > >>> > > >>> Faisal. > > >>> > > >>> On 4/14/2010 11:34 AM, RickG wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> Upgraded to version 5.1.2 prior to installation. Still poor > > >>>> performance. Not using Mimo mode. Using as an AP on a repeater. > Having > > >>>> no luck connecting to it with another M unit as CPE. Think its a > bad > > >>>> radio(s)? > > >>>> > > >>>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Michael Baird<[email protected]> > > >>>> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >>>> > > >>>>> Bad firmware and poor compatibility with legacy protocols. Make > sure > > >>>>> > > >> you > > >> > > >>>>> upgrade them to the absolute latest beta available on the > forums. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Regards > > >>>>> Michael Baird > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> I've been using regular Bullets and NS2's which have been > working > > >>>>>> great. So, I thought I'd give the "M" units a try. So far, > nothing > > but > > >>>>>> poor signal, dropped packets,& low throughput. Replacing > them > > with > > >>>>>> regular units fix the issue. What gives? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Forbes Mercy > > >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> After falling in like with the Rocket M Nano's the Rocket M > Bullets > > >>>>>>> and > > >>>>>>> the Mimos I have to say I'm firmly unimpressed with the > integrated > > >>>>>>> antenna series. We bought a pack of 10 of the 27dbi grids, > not one > > >>>>>>> > > >> of > > >> > > >>>>>>> them would associate to our Mimos yet a bullet and in some > cases, > > >>>>>>> where > > >>>>>>> distance wasn't a factor, the Nano Rockets did so without a > > problem. > > >>>>>>> We > > >>>>>>> just took delivery on the Nano Dish units, we wanted them to > do > > some > > >>>>>>> short range backhauls. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Today was our first, replacing a 10MB Motorola backhaul at 5.2 > > miles, > > >>>>>>> we > > >>>>>>> set up the new dishes up in the office WDS on, WPA on they > > connected > > >>>>>>> at > > >>>>>>> -50 (as they should in the office), connection firm all night. > > >>>>>>> Installed them today, the AP working well we headed up the > mountain > > >>>>>>> > > >> to > > >> > > >>>>>>> install the other one. 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