Current "stable" setup is Airmax on, 10 Mhz channel, freq 2417 (channel 2).

Noise floor varies -96 to -83 dBm
Signal RX from station -59 to -67
TX/RX 13 Mbps
CCQ 100%

Speedtest shows 2.88 Mbps RX, 1.94 Mbps TX

Airmax turned off

Noise floor varies -96 to -85 dBm
Signal RX from station -60
ACK 51
TX/RX 13 MBps
CCQ 100%

Speedtest shows 2.66 Mbps RX, 3.26 Mbps TX

Changed both stations to 1 mile/Auto ACK and now sitting stable at about 3.0
Mbps TX/RX after half dozen tests...



On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <[email protected]>wrote:

> Hey AJ.
>
> I am curious.....
>
> Turn on Airmax.
> Reduce Channel size to 10mhz  or 5mhz
>
> And see if things improve...
>
> Faisal.
>
> On 4/14/2010 2:09 PM, AJ wrote:
> > Here is the upper portion of the band running Airview - it's roughly the
> > same across the entire 2.3-2.7 band that the NS2M can scan, of course
> > significantly higher centered on US channels 6 and 11... hopefully the
> PDF
> > flows through correctly...
> >
> > View from the NS2M at the power supply cabinet (next to the subdivision)
> > Site Survey
> > Scanned Frequencies:
> > 2.412GHz 2.417GHz 2.422GHz 2.427GHz 2.432GHz 2.437GHz 2.442GHz 2.447GHz
> > 2.452GHz 2.457GHz 2.462GHz
> >
> >
> > Scanning, please wait...
> >    MAC Address SSID Device Name Encryption Signal / Noise, dBm Frequency,
> GHz
> > Channel
> >    00:21:29:66:C6:D7 Mada    WPA2 -63 / -82 2.412 1
> >    00:23:EE:28:9B:D1 OurMaddie    WPA -71 / -82 2.412 1
> >    00:24:7B:04:FA:66 myqwest6245    WPA -67 / -82 2.412 1
> >    00:19:E4:4C:F9:49 HelloMoto    WPA -56 / -82 2.412 1
> >    00:18:84:81:A2:79 ASGARD    WPA2 -76 / -84 2.427 4
> >    00:19:7D:05:8A:28 My PS3    WPA -75 / -85 2.437 6
> >    00:21:D7:90:80:10     WPA2 -59 / -85 2.437 6
> >    00:1C:FB:FD:CB:D0 qwestJONES    WPA -74 / -84 2.447 8
> >    00:12:17:62:58:69 HelloMoto2G    WPA -68 / -85 2.462 11
> >    00:15:A3:E5:15:70 Blacklab34    WPA -58 / -85 2.462 11
> >    00:1F:CA:26:F6:C6     WPA2 -20 / -85 2.462 11
> >    00:21:D7:90:7C:E0     WPA2 -51 / -85 2.462 11
> >    00:24:7B:14:D6:56 myqwest5589    WPA -70 / -85 2.462 11
> >    00:00:00:00:00:00     WEP -71 / -82 2.412 1
> >    00:14:A5:30:06:5C Motorola    NONE -70 / -82 2.412 1
> >    00:22:75:46:BB:D4 Belkin_N_Wireless_46bbd4    NONE -72 / -85 2.432 5
> >    00:21:29:95:3A:67 John    NONE -81 / -85 2.437 6
> >    00:21:00:5C:2D:35 Home    WEP -80 / -85 2.437 6
> >    00:0C:41:96:68:AE linksys    WEP -72 / -85 2.437 6
> >    00:24:B2:76:6A:10 tmobile hotspot    WEP -73 / -84 2.447 8
> >    00:15:05:36:DA:8B ACTIONTEC    WEP -70 / -84 2.452 9
> >    00:24:7B:35:A1:54 myqwest4705    WEP -63 / -85 2.462 11
> >    00:00:00:00:00:00     WEP -62 / -85 2.462 11
> >    00:14:6C:94:B6:00 Barbara    NONE -71 / -85 2.462 11
> >
> >
> > Scan from the remote employee's house facing the 2 new subdivisions:
> > Site Survey
> > Scanned Frequencies:
> > 2.412GHz 2.417GHz 2.422GHz 2.427GHz 2.432GHz 2.437GHz 2.442GHz 2.447GHz
> > 2.452GHz 2.457GHz 2.462GHz
> >
> >
> > Scanning, please wait...
> >    MAC Address SSID Device Name Encryption Signal / Noise, dBm Frequency,
> GHz
> > Channel
> >    00:1B:5B:99:09:A1 Oliver    WPA -71 / -83 2.412 1
> >    00:1E:E5:FA:89:97 Less work for me    WPA2 -75 / -83 2.412 1
> >    00:17:3F:57:53:B0 Revelation    WPA -60 / -83 2.437 6
> >    00:22:3F:65:D9:6A MotoxChris    WPA -60 / -83 2.437 6
> >    00:21:D7:90:80:10     WPA2 -61 / -83 2.437 6
> >    00:22:3F:A6:E7:85 NETGEAR    WPA -65 / -81 2.417 2
> >    00:15:6D:FA:63:85 UBNT-AP  UBNT-AP  WPA2 -62 / -85 2.452 9
> >    00:23:EE:28:9B:D1 OurMaddie    WPA -78 / -83 2.412 1
> >    00:18:F8:B8:AB:86 19darne57    WEP -77 / -83 2.437 6
> >    00:16:B6:45:69:4D Ralphs    WEP -71 / -83 2.437 6
> >    00:13:10:69:BE:A8 linksys    NONE -76 / -85 2.422 3
> >    00:21:29:95:3A:67 John    NONE -72 / -83 2.437 6
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Gino Villarini<[email protected]>
>  wrote:
> >
> >
> >> If you are using the latest fw, use the airview spectrum analyzer to see
> >> your local noise
> >>
> >> Gino A. Villarini
> >> [email protected]
> >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> >> 787.273.4143
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> >>   Behalf Of AJ
> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 1:24 PM
> >> To: WISPA General List
> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT "M" Was: Ubiquiti made no points today
> >>
> >> I'm on the latest beta firmware...
> >>
> >> And swapping out $200 worth of gear to play on another band is
> >> frustrating...
> >>
> >> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Faisal Imtiaz
> >> <[email protected]>wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Two suggestions...  Upgrade to the beta firmware and see if it helps
> >>>
> >>> other... consider doing NS5M, if 2.4 is crowded...
> >>>
> >>> Faisal.
> >>>
> >>> On 4/14/2010 1:08 PM, AJ wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Wish I could get speeds like that :)
> >>>>
> >>>> Have a pair of NS2Ms set up right on on a P2P link to bridge between
> >>>>
> >> a
> >>
> >>>> DOCSIS modem in a power supply cabinet to an employee that lives 3/4
> >>>>
> >> mi
> >>
> >>> away
> >>>
> >>>> LoS and can barely keep it up to 13 meg up/down... Running the
> >>>>
> >> latest
> >>
> >>>> Beta... Doesn't help the noise floor bounces around -85 to -80 all
> >>>>
> >> day
> >>
> >>> long
> >>>
> >>>> (I can see 26 different consumer routers from both sides of the
> >>>>
> >> link)
> >>
> >>> from
> >>>
> >>>> the nearby subdivision...
> >>>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Joe Miller<[email protected]
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Holy crap....where do I get one of those. That is one hell of a
> >>>>>
> >> link you
> >>
> >>>>> have there.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Joe Miller
> >>>>> DSLbyAir, LLC
> >>>>> 228-831-8881
> >>>>> www.dslbyair.com
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> From: "Greg Ihnen"<[email protected]>
> >>>>> To: "WISPA General List"<[email protected]>
> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 11:59 AM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT "M" Was: Ubiquiti made no points today
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>    Do you mean like this? Notice the rssi on the lower pic. These
> >>>>>
> >> are two
> >>
> >>>>> NS5Ms
> >>>>> setup as a backhaul. I was assuming the rssi is being wrongly
> >>>>>
> >> reported
> >>
> >>>>> since
> >>>>> the TX/RX is 162/162. If the rssi was for real wouldn't one chain
> >>>>>
> >> be
> >>
> >>>>> reporting a very low connection speed, right? I'm getting 162Mbps
> >>>>>
> >> on
> >>
> >>> both
> >>>
> >>>>> directions.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This is one end of backhaul, this NS5M running station wds: rssi
> >>>>>
> >> -51/-56
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> --------
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> This is the other NS5M running ap wds: rssi -51/-94
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> --------
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Apr 14, 2010, at 11:11 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> ...not using MIMO mode ... ? what antenna are you using ?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Using the Rocket M5 without the Ubiquiti Antenna's is like driving
> >>>>>>
> >> a
> >>
> >>>>>> sports car with all flat tires :)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> There is a good documentation on the UBNT forum on how to verify
> >>>>>>
> >> the
> >>
> >>>>>> bad/defective units....
> >>>>>> Testing them , have two units sync/link to each other, reduce the
> >>>>>>
> >>> power,
> >>>
> >>>>>> little bit at a time.. you will see a 6 to 9db difference on the
> >>>>>>
> >> two
> >>
> >>>>>> chains (Hpol/Vpol)... normal units will show either the same
> >>>>>>
> >> signal
> >>
> >>>>>> level or off by a couple of db's..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Faisal.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 4/14/2010 11:34 AM, RickG wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Upgraded to version 5.1.2 prior to installation. Still poor
> >>>>>>> performance. Not using Mimo mode. Using as an AP on a repeater.
> >>>>>>>
> >> Having
> >>
> >>>>>>> no luck connecting to it with another M unit as CPE. Think its a
> >>>>>>>
> >> bad
> >>
> >>>>>>> radio(s)?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Michael Baird<[email protected]>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>    wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Bad firmware and poor compatibility with legacy protocols. Make
> >>>>>>>>
> >> sure
> >>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>> you
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>> upgrade them to the absolute latest beta available on the
> >>>>>>>>
> >> forums.
> >>
> >>>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>>> Michael Baird
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I've been using regular Bullets and NS2's which have been
> >>>>>>>>>
> >> working
> >>
> >>>>>>>>> great. So, I thought I'd give the "M" units a try. So far,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >> nothing
> >>
> >>> but
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>> poor signal, dropped packets,&      low throughput. Replacing
> >>>>>>>>>
> >> them
> >>
> >>> with
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>> regular units fix the issue. What gives?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Forbes Mercy
> >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>      wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> After falling in like with the Rocket M Nano's the Rocket M
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> Bullets
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>> the Mimos I have to say I'm firmly unimpressed with the
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> integrated
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>> antenna series.  We bought a pack of 10 of the 27dbi grids,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> not one
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> of
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> them would associate to our Mimos yet a bullet and in some
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> cases,
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>> where
> >>>>>>>>>> distance wasn't a factor, the Nano Rockets did so without a
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>> problem.
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>> We
> >>>>>>>>>> just took delivery on the Nano Dish units, we wanted them to
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> do
> >>
> >>> some
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>> short range backhauls.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Today was our first, replacing a 10MB Motorola backhaul at 5.2
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>> miles,
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>> set up the new dishes up in the office WDS on, WPA on they
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>> connected
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>> -50 (as they should in the office), connection firm all night.
> >>>>>>>>>> Installed them today, the AP working well we headed up the
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> mountain
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> to
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> install the other one.  It would not see or connect to the
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> other
> >>
> >>> Nano
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Dish no matter whether we used the lower powered 5.2 or the
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> more
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>> generous 5.7/8 frequency range.  Gradually turning off the
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> WDS,
> >>
> >>> then
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>> WPA, then making it 20 MHZ, finally we gave up and the
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> unnecessary
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>> beating to my bucket truck that had to climb that mountain
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> left me
> >>
> >>> in
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>> pretty foul mood over the new gear.  I'm about to RMA all of
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> it and
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> go
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> back to just bullets and Rockets.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Forbes
> >>>>>>>>>>
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