The 300,000 people is spread over 3 days. Only a subset of those will have smart phones/PDAs/laptops, and even a smaller subset of those will want to get online. My primary target is the 100 or so vendors.
Greg Ihnen wrote: > How many of those 300,000 will be connected simultaneously? Isn't the limit > of what a Bullet can adequately handle somewhere around 30 clients? So with > three Bullets what you'll be able to support is around 90 simultaneous > clients. > > I think you'd be better off to use clusters of NS2Locos arranged radially as > sectors (plus ethernet switches, power supplies etc), and you're going to > need something (MT?) for bandwidth management and also a pretty big pipe to > feed it all. It might even be worthwhile to only allow traffic on web and > email ports. Who knows what people are going to connect to your network. > Someone with a Bittorrent client running? Someone with a Mac doing their > iDisk backup? A PC doing a Carbonite or Mozy backup? > > If you don't pull this off well you'll just frustrate a lot of people and > yourself. > > Greg > On Apr 18, 2010, at 9:32 AM, Charles Hooper wrote: > > >> Oh yeah, I'm doing this for free. I don't really have any hardware other >> than a Bullet with an omni that a friend gave me. I planned on buying >> some equipment and I don't mind, provided I can use it for other >> projects after this one, but I'd like to keep the budget under $300 (if >> that's laughable, do let me know!) >> >> My thoughts were to use NS5Ls for the backhaul and up to three >> well-placed 2.4 Bullets w/ omnis, but the fewer the better. >> >> >> Josh Luthman wrote: >> >>> Nanos would be cheaper then MT wouldn't it? >>> >>> On 4/17/10, Mike <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Marlon's idea is good. Put a high 5.8 omni at the crossroads. Put some >>>> 5.8 >>>> cpe at a few different places with 2.4 low power radios connected to them. >>>> A P2P to the crossroads system from your demark would complete the system. >>>> >>>> You could do it with Deliberant radios, or Mikrotik quite easily. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer >>>> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 7:08 PM >>>> To: WISPA General List >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Internet for festival: Laptop/PDA signal strength? >>>> >>>> I use a 24dB grid for a project like this. We can get to a laptop (in >>>> open air) about a mile away this way ;-). It's pretty cool. >>>> >>>> You'd never be able to handle the volume that way though. >>>> >>>> I'd probably try to go with REALLY low powered omni or sectors with a LOT >>>> of >>>> >>>> them. 5 gig 802.11 a and b/g. I'd also run a 5 gig system over the top of >>>> it for backhaul. >>>> >>>> Unless you are doing this for free. Then put in what you've got that's >>>> cheap and go from there. >>>> marlon >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Charles Hooper" <[email protected]> >>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 11:27 AM >>>> Subject: [WISPA] Internet for festival: Laptop/PDA signal strength? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Every year in July we have a fairly large, 3-day festival in town with >>>>> over 100 vendors and over 300,000 visitors. I'm teaming up with a local >>>>> non-profit that I'm involved with to try to provide Internet access to >>>>> those vendors, as well as any of those 300,000 people with >>>>> smartphones/PDAs who feel the need to get online. Essentially, the area >>>>> I want to cover is in green on this map (plus the pier): >>>>> >>>>> http://sailfest.org/images/page/sailfest2009_event_guide.gif >>>>> >>>>> For a sense of scale, those green sections are only about 400 feet long >>>>> and are (mostly) flat and the buildings around them are made of brick. >>>>> There will be tents and stands all along the street. This is one of the >>>>> areas: >>>>> >>>>> http://sailfest.org/images/page/vendorarea_03.jpg >>>>> >>>>> If I put a Ubiquiti bullet in that intersection of the green area with >>>>> an omnidirectional antenna, I have very little doubt that its signal >>>>> will get wherever it needs to go, but will people's laptops and PDAs >>>>> have a problem with connections at that range? Or should I put a >>>>> repeater halfway down those streets, or even for this use case use a >>>>> Mesh network design? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks in advance, >>>>> Charles >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> ---- >>>> >>>> >>>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> ---- >>>> >>>> >>>>> WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>>> >>>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> ---- >>>> WISPA Wants You! 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