>Now Hams are coming to us wanting Internet bandwidth for interconnecting
>the
>D-Star digital repeaters that Icom makes. Makes for a nice trade for tower
>rent on some towers a WISP may not normally easily access.

I have had this happen to me as well, hams are letting me use tower space in
exchange for bandwidth on the sites. They are generally good people to have
on your side as I have made many uses of them. And they too have converted
me over to becoming a HAM as well.

KD8KRT

Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
 
 



Original Message-----
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Leon D. Zetekoff
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 4:53 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISM vs UNII

On 04/26/2010 03:03 PM, Jack Unger wrote:
> Correct. Ham radio can not be used for any commercial purpose.
> WISP-type operation for money is not legal. A ham radio club could
> operate an Internet-connected access point for their own use (like for
> emergency communications, experimentation, etc.) but the access point
> and each end-point (CPE) would need to be under the control of a
> licensed amateur radio operator.
it depends...you can, over an autopatch, order a pizza from a take-out
or call your doctor if you are late for an appt. As long as there is no
pecuniary interest to the control op/trustee is the key.

So IMHO an amateur could put up an access point and as long as he doesnt
have  apecuniary interest (i.e. subscription fees) that would work BUT
the CPE would also have to be an amateur and likewise there but there
shouldn't be any issue browsing the web and even doing transactions over
that circuit. I;m not trying to open a can of worms but this is info
I've gleaned over the years.

Our repeater club in Florida, still exists (when I moved to PA I passed
on the truseteeship), was always a front runner on licensing issues as
well as a wide interpretation of the rules.

Leon WA4ZLW
>
> jack
>
>
> Jeromie Reeves wrote:
>> Aside the moral issue with that, is it not 'no commercial
>> transactions' when operating under ham rules?
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Jack Unger <jun...@ask-wi.com> wrote:
>>   
>>> Yes; a very dirty and disreputable way. Any ham who tries this should
>>> remember that "What goes around comes around".
>>>
>>> jack K6XS
>>>
>>> Tom Sharples wrote:
>>>
>>> For those WISPs who are licensed hams, that certainly suggests a unique
way
>>> to get rid of your competitors who aren't :-)
>>>
>>> Tom S.
>>> WA6HAS
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Leon D. Zetekoff" <wa4...@arrl.net>
>>> To: <wireless@wispa.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 8:03 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISM vs UNII
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/26/2010 10:06 AM, Philip Dorr wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> HAMs have a secondary license (Lower than Licensed, but higher than
>>> unlicensed). HAMs can use 2390MHz-2450MHz and put out a max EIRP of
>>> 1.5kW, but in that RF range (2.4GHz) that is called a "microwave
>>> oven".  HAMs can also use 5650MHz-5925MHz.
>>>
>>> http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Hambands_color.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It's not a secondary license but a secondary allocation. We are still
>>> licensed. As I mentioned previously, spread spectrum emission types are
>>> not allow that much "boost" but other emission types are.
>>>
>>> Leon
>>>       



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