Depends on the state.  :-p

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On 5/6/2010 6:52 PM, Scott Lambert wrote:
> On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 05:24:46PM -0500, Mike Hammett wrote:
>    
>> I'll show you a Rocket M5 that has more capacity than entire DSLAMs
>> around here.  As wireless gear gets faster and faster while telco
>> provided service remains the same, the place for DSL is becoming less.
>> I won't disagree with your tool comment, but a hammer makes a better
>> striking device than a screwdriver.
>>      
> Can you show me a Rocket M5 that reaches customers across half the
> state?  We use wireless where DSL either doesn't exist or sucks.  The
> margins are thin, but the costs aren't too terribly extreme if you have
> a couple thousand DSL customers, at least with our AT&T and Windstream
> telcos.  It helps to keep your old dial-up customers on your service
> until you can get the wireless network built to them.
>
> 2000 customers, one piece of gear, fire and forget for the most part.
>
> It is becoming less and less attractive as the telcos get more
> aggressive post-deregulation, but there is still a significant segment
> of our customer base we can't reach without it.
>
>
>    
>> On 5/6/2010 3:00 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote:
>>      
>>> Because dsl has more bandwidth available to it? It can let you bring
>>> extra capacity into relay sites, offload constant transfers, etc.
>>> Otherwise,I agree. The cost is crazy high (more then buying the same
>>> loop + net from the telco). Its a tool, use it where right.
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Mike Hammett<wispawirel...@ics-il.net>   
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>        
>>>> I'm not sure why WISPs resell DSL is any significant capacity.
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/26/2010 11:31 AM, Ryan Ghering wrote:
>>>>
>>>>          
>>>>> CenturyLink has the worst billing system in the country. We resell DSL
>>>>> through them, let me tell you its a nightmare.
>>>>> Takes a few months to get new customers on the billing worksheet, and even
>>>>> longer to get them off, its a daily fight to get credits for over billing,
>>>>> AND our per customer bill rate was supposed to be changed over 18 months
>>>>> ago, and they JUST changed it 2 months ago. Cost us 30k on over billing 
>>>>> that
>>>>> they refuse to credit back now. I could go on and on but its just not 
>>>>> what I
>>>>> want to rant on today :)..
>>>>>
>>>>> The boss and I had a great conversation on Friday.. all about moving every
>>>>> DSL customer we have over to our wireless network.
>>>>> Now is the time for any qwest or CTEL reseller to get off their networks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Happy Monday!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Ryan
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Josh Luthman
>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>            
>>>>>> If anyone has multiple PSTN lines at multiple addresses read this!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had a customer with two PSTN lines at two addresses - one was a gas
>>>>>> station, the other an office.  After the merger/buyout/whatever they 
>>>>>> split
>>>>>> the bills and left the office one on autopay but the other line was left
>>>>>> there to rack up a bill.  They never send paper bills on their own - you
>>>>>> have to fight to the bone to get one.  Took a few hours but they did 
>>>>>> manage
>>>>>> to combine the two lines in to one account again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ?Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to 
>>>>>> continue
>>>>>> that counts.?
>>>>>> --- Winston Churchill
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Marlon K. Schafer<o...@odessaoffice.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              
>>>>>>> yeah.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I spent 40 minutes on the phone just trying to get to a support person
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                
>>>>>> that
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              
>>>>>>> could help with a business grade dsl line the other day.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The first company that I called (the support line that showed on the
>>>>>>> internet) said that they (CenturyLink) didn't have any record of the
>>>>>>> account.  They sent me to CenturyTel (who answered the phone as
>>>>>>> CenturyLink).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gonna be great for MY business if they keep doing things the way that
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                
>>>>>> they
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              
>>>>>>> are!
>>>>>>> marlon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Ryan Ghering"<rgher...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "WISPA General List"<wireless@wispa.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 1:00 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Qwest buyout
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I live and work in CenturyHell land.. I can tell you this, as of today
>>>>>>> we are now looking for alternative options of all our ds3's.
>>>>>>> Including those that cross connect into qwest. If they kill support at
>>>>>>> qwest for high-cap services like they did their own, its gona be hell
>>>>>>> on all of us that have qwest connections.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ryan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Jeremie Chism<jchi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>> It has been heading that way for a while. When they sold the wiress to
>>>>>>>> alltel there were a lot of cuts which didn't go over well. Then the
>>>>>>>> embarq merger has some wondering what their job responsibilities are
>>>>>>>> and if they will have a job. I was at the corporate office a few weeks
>>>>>>>> ago and the mood was very negative.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have been getting quite a few of their phone customers that are
>>>>>>>> unhappy. Not to mention centurytel is a nightmare to port from. AT&T
>>>>>>>> takes 10 days. Centurytel can take up to 120 days.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Apr 22, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Jack Unger<jun...@ask-wi.com>     wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>> Jeremie,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is there one overall reason why employees hate it? What is
>>>>>>>>> CenturyTel doing wrong?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> jack
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jeremie Chism wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>> I live in Monroe, worked for centurytel for over 5 years. Everyone I
>>>>>>>>>> know that works there now hates it. Most are looking for new jobs.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 22, 2010, at 12:17 PM, Randy Cosby<dco...@infowest.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                      
>>>>>>>>>>> http://news.qwest.com/centurylinkqwestmerger
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *MONROE, La. and DENVER, Co. -- April 22, 2010* -- CenturyLink
>>>>>>>>>>> (CenturyTel, Inc., NYSE: CTL) and Qwest Communications (NYSE: Q)
>>>>>>>>>>> announced today that their boards of directors have approved a
>>>>>>>>>>> definitive agreement under which CenturyLink will acquire Qwest in a
>>>>>>>>>>> tax-free, stock-for-stock transaction. ...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Randy Cosby
>>>>>>>>>>> Vice President
>>>>>>>>>>> InfoWest, Inc
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 435-674-0165 x 2010
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.infowest.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Letting off steam always produces more heat than light." - Neal A.
>>>>>>>>>>> Maxwell
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>> Network Design - Technical Training - Technical Writing
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