This is why companies like American Tower, Spectrasite, and others have
always required a structural engineering study. The engineers sign off on
it, and you are supposed to install based up that plan. Sucks, but is a way
of CYA.
Justin
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From: Jack Unger <[email protected]>
Reply-To: WISPA General List <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 10:03:12 -0700
To: WISPA General List <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved)
Tom,
You raise an interesting and valid question about whether a tower (or tank)
"Best Practices" should be followed by all cellular and WISP operators.
Personally, I have to ask if perhaps this might just have been an "Act of
Zod"?
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Zod>
jack
Tom DeReggi wrote:
>
> Interesting.... So then, I guess this brings up another issue. Could the
> Cellular company also be held liable? Could they have mounted their cabling
> a different way that would have better disappated heat or isolated their
> cabling from the tower, knowing that one day it might need welding
> maintenance? Or onsucg structures should a fire-retardent type cable be
> used?
>
> Lets use another example, if a WISP mounts his cable on a Chimney, and the
> home owner lights a fire.... Is the home owner or WISP responsible if the
> cable catches fire?
> I'd argue the WISP becaue they should ahve known that one day heat could be
> an issue that needed delt with. So taking the same logic, shouldn't the
> Cellular company have known the same?
>
> What are best practices for mounting Cable on Water Towers? How can law
> suits be avoided? Are they going to hold a WISP responsible for repainting
> the tower (with expensive epoxy paint), if they clamp and strap radios and
> cables to water tank legs and rails?
>
> Or is the secret to use an engineering company to certify the paln, and get
> the county to certify the engineer, so the Engineer would be responsible? Or
> should the county be responsible for letting the cellular cable up there,
> knowing that it could be a risk to welders?
>
> My point here is.... I'm not confident that just the welder was responsible.
> I would think there would have to be some sort of neglect proven.
> It would be interesting to see the outcome.
>
> It would also be interesting to see if a suit gets opened by the welders,
> arguing that teh welders were put in danger due to inadequate ventelation
> inside teh water tower, and against the cable company from not adequately
> isolating the cables from the tower?
>
> Who's authority is it to say what best practices are right, to prevent
> accidents?
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eric Rogers" <[email protected]>
> <mailto:[email protected]>
> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 3:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved)
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>
>
>>
>> I do know that epoxy paint is very expensive. I got a quote for $26,000
>> to weld some brackets on the top of a tank just so I can mount my stuff.
>> There is a lining inside the tank as well as the outside. If they have
>> to repaint it, I bet $400k isn't even for the equipment and transmission
>> lines.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>> Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
>> Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 3:01 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved)
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Dahl said damage to the cables and paint on the tower is estimated at
>>> $400,000.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Now thats funny. Talking about Gold diggin Munis, They must be planning
>> on
>> using Gold based paint and Gold plated cable to match.
>>
>> After stating "no structural damage". Now if they were counting lost
>> revenue for the Cell carrier's customers during the outage, well, then
>> I'd
>> understand it.
>>
>> Tom DeReggi
>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>>
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