I remember those days.  Glad that ended 3 years ago, myself.

On 5/27/10, finkle dinkle <[email protected]> wrote:
> 1/2) UVerse is coming soon, box has been outside for 6 months on,
> neighbors can get it but not the building yet.  6mbit max dsl and 28/3
> possible cable modem but it's usually unstable.
> 3) if I want to sell LOS, it's pretty flat if I recall, I dont know to
> what degree I can shoot LOS though, it may be smaller than I remember.
> 4) maybe 5 miles, would love 10.
> 5) want to be able to scale.. 50 megs each way would be great, 100
> megs would be better (doubt I will have a customer for 100/100 but who
> knows)
> 6) if I could profit off it, why wouldn't I cater to the people who do
> want the symmetrical speeds, residential or business -- I have no
> discrimination towards people who work from home, like uploading
> pictures and working, I will obviously have to figure something out
> about file sharing.
> 7) I already get little sleep anyway ;) no I sleep well and very
> little amount of people nag me.  I guess I'd have to learn to deal
> with it.
> 8/9)  It's sort of like a service where I'm able to offer them a lot
> more than just wireless service.  I could pretty much upsell them on
> everything else, referrals and stuff.  With the potential clients I
> have lined up for inside the building, If i could get two 50/50
> customers which I KNOW I could, I will do well.
>
>
> I never thought about using the existing phone lines in the building..
> I wonder how ATT would react to that once they're ready to launch
> UVerse inside.  I do like the ability to be able reach "Maximum Speeds
> of 100 Mbps Symmetrical at distances up to 1,000 feet (300 m) " as
> said on some of those VDSL modems but it's all maximum theoretical
> speeds anyway.
>
> I know I could differentiate myself from these bigger companies
> because of the possible level of "Enterprise" support I could offer,
> for example.. Offering the bigger companies space in the cage at the
> datacenter with service to allow them to set their servers offsite but
> pretty much be considered LAN since I could just send it via the PTP
> Fiber link.  Also, I could obviously link up to any provider in Los
> Angeles via the meet me rooms.  I'd probably plug into Hurricane
> Electric since they're unbelievably cheap but there are Premium
> Bandwidth Mix's out there that aren't too expensive and I think I
> could make a pretty good amount of money doing this.
>
> Richard, thinking about changing my name to Wilmington Wellington
> 3rd.. perhaps I could get money at me with that sort of a name.
>
>
> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Jerry Richardson
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> There are a few considerations to make before heading down this path.
>> 1. What are you selling against? DSL, Cable, 3G, Satellite
>> 2. What speeds are available via these services
>> 3. What is your terrain like - trees, hills, valley, desert, etc
>> 4. What is the max distance you are looking to cover - 1, 5, 10 miles?
>> 5. What speeds do you want to deliver - 1.5, 3.0, 10, 20 Mbps
>> 6. You said symmetrical speeds - why? Pretty uncommon for residential
>> service
>> 7. Are you prepared to get little sleep, give up most of your free time
>> for at least the forst 2-3 months?
>> 8. If you are doing this to break even, don't bother. You are only doing
>> your customers a disservice because you will get tired/bored/sick of
>> losing money and shut it down.
>> 9. If you want to make this profitable, plan on trying to get some
>> business customers - they are worth muvh more.
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>> Behalf Of finkle dinkle
>> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 8:57 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp
>>
>> So, I've got space in a building in So. Cal with a lot of neighbors
>> with crappy connections. In the beginning, I wanted to bring in a gig
>> PTP from the datacenter 12 miles away... I'm not a salesman, I think
>> with the bandwidth I have available at the DC + the of the PTP, I
>> could've made everyone in the building happy, at least 20 tenants if I
>> could convince them.. doubt I could.
>>
>> Anyway, I have potential access to the roof, I'd have to ask.
>>
>> Are there any laws if I want to sell service ?
>>
>> If I want to provide service to lets just say 50 clients (not in the
>> building but through wireless), are there devices that dont have to
>> rely on LOS ?
>>
>> I'm just trying to understand if this all went along well, how many
>> devices would I need to mount up on the roof to support 20-50 clients
>> externally with the devices and which devices..
>>
>> I'm looking to sell the bandwidth for a relatively low price, undercut
>> wimax and not strictly looking for profit but looking to be the point
>> guy for other tech operations for these potential clients..
>>
>> Also, to the people who have good access to bandwidth or even not..
>> how much are you looking at from all your cost to what you actually
>> charge (not including administrative) but lets assume your bandwidth
>> costs are 8k/month with the point to point to the datacenter +
>> 1000mbit commit. I know I could do better but what are we looking at
>> here, if the total cost to get the bandwidth, less the equipment to my
>> office building at 8 bux a meg, how much should I be selling it ? any
>> recommendations ?
>>
>> I do not want to be a company like towerstream where I sell 8 megs for
>> 800/MRC, i'm looking to charge more like 25 bux per meg... Is my model
>> right or wrong ?
>>
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