-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of finkle dinkle Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 10:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp
1/2) UVerse is coming soon, box has been outside for 6 months on, neighbors can get it but not the building yet. 6mbit max dsl and 28/3 possible cable modem but it's usually unstable. With wireless you are not going to comptete on speed. Service/local guy/support/symmetrical speed are going to be your selling points. Sell based on speed and you'll get hammered. 3) if I want to sell LOS, it's pretty flat if I recall, I dont know to what degree I can shoot LOS though, it may be smaller than I remember. LOS gets you into the 5GHz equipment. - Canopy 430 ~21Mbps aggregate is the most stable unlicenced platform available at this time 4) maybe 5 miles, would love 10. No problem with the Canopy 430 - you'll see full speed at 5 mi and perhaps 2/3 speed at 10 5) want to be able to scale.. 50 megs each way would be great, 100 megs would be better (doubt I will have a customer for 100/100 but who knows) Nothing like that in PMP. you can use something like Ubiquity or other 802.11 to get higher speeds, however they are not as robust as Canopy, and it does not scale well due to lack of GPS based Tx/Rx timing 6) if I could profit off it, why wouldn't I cater to the people who do want the symmetrical speeds, residential or business -- I have no discrimination towards people who work from home, like uploading pictures and working, I will obviously have to figure something out about file sharing. When I say residential I am not including SOHO. Symmetrical is not really a selling feature for residential - Comcast/ATT has done a superb job convincing residential users that the only thing that matters is download speed. IF you focus on business, you can be quite profitable with fewer customers. 7) I already get little sleep anyway ;) no I sleep well and very little amount of people nag me. I guess I'd have to learn to deal with it. 8/9) It's sort of like a service where I'm able to offer them a lot more than just wireless service. I could pretty much upsell them on everything else, referrals and stuff. With the potential clients I have lined up for inside the building, If i could get two 50/50 customers which I KNOW I could, I will do well. In the building you can do the 50Mbps+ connections. Unfortunately not via wireless. I never thought about using the existing phone lines in the building.. I wonder how ATT would react to that once they're ready to launch UVerse inside. I do like the ability to be able reach "Maximum Speeds of 100 Mbps Symmetrical at distances up to 1,000 feet (300 m) " as said on some of those VDSL modems but it's all maximum theoretical speeds anyway. I know I could differentiate myself from these bigger companies because of the possible level of "Enterprise" support I could offer, for example.. Offering the bigger companies space in the cage at the datacenter with service to allow them to set their servers offsite but pretty much be considered LAN since I could just send it via the PTP Fiber link. Also, I could obviously link up to any provider in Los Angeles via the meet me rooms. I'd probably plug into Hurricane Electric since they're unbelievably cheap but there are Premium Bandwidth Mix's out there that aren't too expensive and I think I could make a pretty good amount of money doing this. BUSINESS SERVICE IS WHERE IT'S AT. Richard, thinking about changing my name to Wilmington Wellington 3rd.. perhaps I could get money at me with that sort of a name. On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Jerry Richardson <[email protected]> wrote: > There are a few considerations to make before heading down this path. > 1. What are you selling against? DSL, Cable, 3G, Satellite > 2. What speeds are available via these services > 3. What is your terrain like - trees, hills, valley, desert, etc > 4. What is the max distance you are looking to cover - 1, 5, 10 miles? > 5. What speeds do you want to deliver - 1.5, 3.0, 10, 20 Mbps > 6. You said symmetrical speeds - why? Pretty uncommon for residential service > 7. Are you prepared to get little sleep, give up most of your free time for > at least the forst 2-3 months? > 8. If you are doing this to break even, don't bother. You are only doing your > customers a disservice because you will get tired/bored/sick of losing money > and shut it down. > 9. If you want to make this profitable, plan on trying to get some business > customers - they are worth muvh more. > > Jerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of finkle dinkle > Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 8:57 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp > > So, I've got space in a building in So. Cal with a lot of neighbors > with crappy connections. In the beginning, I wanted to bring in a gig > PTP from the datacenter 12 miles away... I'm not a salesman, I think > with the bandwidth I have available at the DC + the of the PTP, I > could've made everyone in the building happy, at least 20 tenants if I > could convince them.. doubt I could. > > Anyway, I have potential access to the roof, I'd have to ask. > > Are there any laws if I want to sell service ? > > If I want to provide service to lets just say 50 clients (not in the > building but through wireless), are there devices that dont have to > rely on LOS ? > > I'm just trying to understand if this all went along well, how many > devices would I need to mount up on the roof to support 20-50 clients > externally with the devices and which devices.. > > I'm looking to sell the bandwidth for a relatively low price, undercut > wimax and not strictly looking for profit but looking to be the point > guy for other tech operations for these potential clients.. > > Also, to the people who have good access to bandwidth or even not.. > how much are you looking at from all your cost to what you actually > charge (not including administrative) but lets assume your bandwidth > costs are 8k/month with the point to point to the datacenter + > 1000mbit commit. I know I could do better but what are we looking at > here, if the total cost to get the bandwidth, less the equipment to my > office building at 8 bux a meg, how much should I be selling it ? any > recommendations ? > > I do not want to be a company like towerstream where I sell 8 megs for > 800/MRC, i'm looking to charge more like 25 bux per meg... Is my model > right or wrong ? > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > WISPA Wants You! 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