On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Eje Gustafsson <[email protected]> wrote: > The metal cap adds a whooping 1.2dB really not worth bothering with IMO. > Only reason they provide it is because people where used to the Andrew dish > that basically requires it the Andrew dishs suffers greatly without the > metal cap.
That explains why the signal level never showed a decent change. They do pick up a lot more noise with out them. > > For some time now the bigger Pac (Laird) grids all are shipping with a much > more heavy duty L bracket then the old ones. > I had a FCC certification lab test out one of the 24dB's about 2 years back > and according to them the unit did measure in very close to 24dB. Maybe it took longer for my vendor to start shipping the mounts? I have only used the 26 and 29db units and they are spot on to radio mobile, give or take a few db. I assume that is due to slightly miss aimed and/or the radios natural variance. Once in, they pretty much stay there. > > The linked feedhorn and grid is a Pac 5GHz grid so if used on 2.4GHz I'm > amazed that you get the gain out of the solution consider the feed is NOT > designed for 2.4GHz. > > / Eje > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 9:28 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.......... > > Oh I do not do ANY 2.4 ghz links other then APs for houses or small > groups of houses (IE Picos now). (ok I have 3 users left on 2.4) The > Pacs with the cheap metal clip on tip are CRAP. I can not express the > horribleness of those enough. The ones like I linked, are great, and > are on par with 2ft solid dish's (obviously not the same gain, but > they do not bounce in the wind or act funny or lose the tip and really > start going wonky) and the links stay with in 2db as the wind blows. > The others drop 10db or more in mild wind. I have been replacing the > feeds with the ones from that link and it makes all the difference. > The mount from the old one is the standard Pac mount that they use on > pretty much everything. This one, is the same but made of thicker > metal. Both work well, and the units are better with the new feeds. > Add a bullet and its a very nice link that works great. I have about a > dozen of the old ones left that will be replaced with NanoBridges as I > move everything over to AirMax. Yup wasted time/money on the cheap > grid, now buying the better one. > > > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Marlon K. Schafer > <[email protected]> wrote: >> Those are 5 gig. I decided NOT to go the cheap route on any 5 gig systems >> out here. >> >> I'm looking for 2.4 gig grids that are of good/great quality. >> >> I've been paying around $100 for a 24dB grid and it doesn't bother me a >> bit..... >> >> Here's a tip for you guys that go dirt cheap on everything and then > complain >> about the time you spend. >> >> My network is now bigger than the entire state of Connecticut. We have > over >> 600 wireless subs and a couple of hundred other customers. I take care of >> it all with the equivalent of 2.5 people! >> >> Don't go too cheap. It'll cost you time and reputation in the end. >> >> marlon >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jeromie Reeves" <[email protected]> >> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 8:51 PM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.......... >> >> >> http://shop.wirelessguys.com/s.nl/it.A/id.4188/.f?sc=13&category=3529 >> >> Those have a very heavy mount and the expected gain. The ones with the >> cheap metal clip on can go right up the designers back side. Seriously >> poor design on those. I have replaced most of the feeds with the same >> feeds as the linked one. >> >> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Marlon K. Schafer <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> I've always hated the Pac grids. >>> >>> They are heavy and have flimsy mounts. And they seem to have 2 to 3 dB >>> LESS >>> rssi than others I've used. >>> >>> I've always spent the money to buy the Andrew (or whatever they are this >>> week) units. Those aren't made anymore though. Anyone know of a > comparable >>> product? >>> >>> marlon >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> >>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:15 AM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.......... >>> >>> >>> Then get a grid and slap it on. I have two parts for small or big >>> links. I use the Pac grids. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >>> continue that counts.” >>> --- Winston Churchill >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Michael Baird <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Not as big an antenna though, CPQ-15's you should compare with PS2's if >>>> anything, they work about the same in the field on receive. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Michael Baird >>>>> An NS2 is $80 list. >>>>> >>>>> I think most will agree it is superior, too. >>>>> >>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>> >>>>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >>>>> continue that counts.” >>>>> --- Winston Churchill >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Tom DeReggi<[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> $100 >>>>>>> >>>>>> I doubt it. "New" equivellent class or better 2.4 CPEs at near that >>>>>> gain >>>>>> (alternate brands), are going for as low as $80 now adays. Maybe even >>>>>> less. >>>>>> Why buy old/used Wifi? >>>>>> Atleast not in 2.4G, that have so many vendor options, new and used. >>>>>> >>>>>> Good luck with liquidating, but I'd side with Chuck, that you'd be >>>>>> lucky >>>>>> to >>>>>> get $50, on the high side. >>>>>> >>>>>> Tom DeReggi >>>>>> RapidDSL& Wireless, Inc >>>>>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Sara Gray"<[email protected]> >>>>>> To: "'WISPA General List'"<[email protected]> >>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:54 AM >>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.......... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Tranzeo CPQ 19f >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We are switching frequencies and have between 50 and 100 to sell. >>>>>>> Hoping >>>>>>> they are worth around $100. 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