We use them as an AP antenna, connecting to client devices that are located 
close to each other, but miles from the AP. They work really well in that 
scenario.  I bought a bunch of them on Ebay at a greatly reduced price.

Tom S.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..........


700 for a customer antenna?

On 6/15/10, Jeromie Reeves <jree...@18-30chat.net> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Eje Gustafsson <e...@wisp-router.com> 
> wrote:
>> The metal cap adds a whooping 1.2dB really not worth bothering with IMO.
>> Only reason they provide it is because people where used to the Andrew
>> dish
>> that basically requires it the Andrew dishs suffers greatly without the
>> metal cap.
>
> That explains why the signal level never showed a decent change. They
> do pick up a lot more noise with out them.
>
>>
>> For some time now the bigger Pac (Laird) grids all are shipping with a
>> much
>> more heavy duty L bracket then the old ones.
>> I had a FCC certification lab test out one of the 24dB's about 2 years
>> back
>> and according to them the unit did measure in very close to 24dB.
>
> Maybe it took longer for my vendor to start shipping the mounts? I
> have only used the 26 and 29db units and they are spot on to
> radio mobile, give or take a few db. I assume that is due to slightly
> miss aimed and/or the radios natural variance. Once in, they
> pretty much stay there.
>
>>
>> The linked feedhorn and grid is a Pac 5GHz grid so if used on 2.4GHz I'm
>> amazed that you get the gain out of the solution consider the feed is NOT
>> designed for 2.4GHz.
>>
>> / Eje
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 9:28 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..........
>>
>> Oh I do not do ANY 2.4 ghz links other then APs for houses or small
>> groups of houses (IE Picos now). (ok I have 3 users left on 2.4) The
>> Pacs with the cheap metal clip on tip are CRAP. I can not express the
>> horribleness of those enough. The ones like I linked, are great, and
>> are on par with 2ft solid dish's (obviously not the same gain, but
>> they do not bounce in the wind or act funny or lose the tip and really
>> start going wonky) and the links stay with in 2db as the wind blows.
>> The others drop 10db or more in mild wind. I have been replacing the
>> feeds with the ones from that link and it makes all the difference.
>> The mount from the old one is the standard Pac mount that they use on
>> pretty much everything. This one, is the same but made of thicker
>> metal. Both work well, and the units are better with the new feeds.
>> Add a bullet and its a very nice link that works great. I have about a
>> dozen of the old ones left that will be replaced with NanoBridges as I
>> move everything over to AirMax. Yup wasted time/money on the cheap
>> grid, now buying the better one.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Marlon K. Schafer
>> <o...@odessaoffice.com> wrote:
>>> Those are 5 gig. I decided NOT to go the cheap route on any 5 gig
>>> systems
>>> out here.
>>>
>>> I'm looking for 2.4 gig grids that are of good/great quality.
>>>
>>> I've been paying around $100 for a 24dB grid and it doesn't bother me a
>>> bit.....
>>>
>>> Here's a tip for you guys that go dirt cheap on everything and then
>> complain
>>> about the time you spend.
>>>
>>> My network is now bigger than the entire state of Connecticut. We have
>> over
>>> 600 wireless subs and a couple of hundred other customers. I take care
>>> of
>>> it all with the equivalent of 2.5 people!
>>>
>>> Don't go too cheap. It'll cost you time and reputation in the end.
>>>
>>> marlon
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jeromie Reeves" <jree...@18-30chat.net>
>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 8:51 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..........
>>>
>>>
>>> http://shop.wirelessguys.com/s.nl/it.A/id.4188/.f?sc=13&category=3529
>>>
>>> Those have a very heavy mount and the expected gain. The ones with the
>>> cheap metal clip on can go right up the designers back side. Seriously
>>> poor design on those. I have replaced most of the feeds with the same
>>> feeds as the linked one.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Marlon K. Schafer 
>>> <o...@odessaoffice.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> I've always hated the Pac grids.
>>>>
>>>> They are heavy and have flimsy mounts. And they seem to have 2 to 3 dB
>>>> LESS
>>>> rssi than others I've used.
>>>>
>>>> I've always spent the money to buy the Andrew (or whatever they are 
>>>> this
>>>> week) units. Those aren't made anymore though. Anyone know of a
>> comparable
>>>> product?
>>>>
>>>> marlon
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:15 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..........
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Then get a grid and slap it on. I have two parts for small or big
>>>> links. I use the Pac grids.
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
>>>> continue that counts.”
>>>> --- Winston Churchill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Michael Baird <m...@tc3net.com> wrote:
>>>>> Not as big an antenna though, CPQ-15's you should compare with PS2's 
>>>>> if
>>>>> anything, they work about the same in the field on receive.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Michael Baird
>>>>>> An NS2 is $80 list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think most will agree it is superior, too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>
>>>>>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
>>>>>> continue that counts.”
>>>>>> --- Winston Churchill
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Tom
>>>>>> DeReggi<wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> $100
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I doubt it. "New" equivellent class or better 2.4 CPEs at near that
>>>>>>> gain
>>>>>>> (alternate brands), are going for as low as $80 now adays. Maybe 
>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>> less.
>>>>>>> Why buy old/used Wifi?
>>>>>>> Atleast not in 2.4G, that have so many vendor options, new and used.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good luck with liquidating, but I'd side with Chuck, that you'd be
>>>>>>> lucky
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> get $50, on the high side.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tom DeReggi
>>>>>>> RapidDSL& Wireless, Inc
>>>>>>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Sara Gray"<li...@jcwifi.com>
>>>>>>> To: "'WISPA General List'"<wireless@wispa.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:54 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..........
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tranzeo CPQ 19f
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We are switching frequencies and have between 50 and 100 to sell.
>>>>>>>> Hoping
>>>>>>>> they are worth around $100. Please reply offlist to 
>>>>>>>> i...@jcwifi.com.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sara Gray
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
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