we have discussed hiring a helicopter to fly upside down at 40' AGL.

Mike wrote:

Poulon Pro 20 inch chainsaws are on sale at Northern; around $100.

Mike

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*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott Reed
*Sent:* Saturday, July 17, 2010 11:11 AM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Mounting on silos

Yep, we do the radios at the bottom on these. Part of what prompted the post is that the trees grew this spring and we need to the the antenna higher. And then we have those few that we need to get 360* coverage from, so we need to get above the dome.

Marlon K. Schafer wrote:

One way to handle that (I often do this because I'm very afraid of heights) is to mount the antennas at the top then run good cable down to a nice play for the radios.

LMR 600 only looses 3 or 4 dB per hundred feet. For runs of less than 50ish feet I'll usually just use LMR 400. If 3 dB of cable loss kills your system you'll be fighting it every time something changes (heavy rain, fog etc.) anyway. Yeah I know weather isn't supposed to affect these bands but someone forgot to tell the radios that :-).

marlon

    ----- Original Message -----

    *From:* Justin Wilson <mailto:li...@mtin.net>

    *To:* WISPA General List <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>

    *Sent:* Friday, July 16, 2010 7:31 AM

    *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Mounting on silos

       Most silos like scott is dealing with have no ladder going to
    the very top. Imagine a domed water tower with no ladder to the
    top of the dome. They never were designed to have to climb to the
    top.  No reason to.  So what you are left with is a ladder that
    goes to where the dome starts.  You then have another 10 feet or
    more to be able to get over the top of the dome.  In otherwords,
    you can't mount at the top of the dome.  You have to come up with
    a solution to get you over the dome.

        Sure, you could bring in a lift or crane and mount stuff.
     However, maintenance and repair become the issue.  You have to
    bring that lift in each time because you can't climb to the top of
the dome.
        Justin
-- Justin Wilson <j...@mtin.net>
    http://www.mtin.net/blog
    Wisp Consulting -- Tower Climbing -- Network Support

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    *From: *Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
    *Reply-To: *WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
    *Date: *Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:15:17 -0400
    *To: *WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
    *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Mounting on silos

    How is that any different then any other tower?  Especially a
    water tower.

    Josh Luthman
    Office: 937-552-2340
    Direct: 937-552-2343
    1100 Wayne St
    Suite 1337
    Troy, OH 45373


    On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Scott Reed
    <scottr...@onlyinternet.net> wrote:

    Especially the one with an open ladder, no cage.

    Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
    > Some of them old silo's like you are describing are pretty scary.
    I've been
    > on them too and seen a lot of safety issues from the fall
    protection cage
    > being rusted through and falling, to the top cap trying to fall
    off. Just be
    > careful climbing those things!
    >
    > Kurt Fankhauser
    > WAVELINC
    > P.O. Box 126
    > Bucyrus, OH 44820
    > 419-562-6405
    > www.wavelinc.com <http://www.wavelinc.com> <http://www.wavelinc.com>
    >
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
    [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
    > Behalf Of Scott Reed
    > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 7:56 AM
    > To: WISPA General List
    > Subject: [WISPA] Mounting on silos
    >
    > I have a couple of POPs that are silos.  Several of them are old
    > concrete silos with metal domes.  The top of the dome is more
    than 10'
    > above the top of the concrete.  I have been mounting with 10' pipe on
    > the ladder side and not servicing customers on the "back" side.
     It has
    > also worked out that the backhauls are on the ladder side as well.
    > This year the trees seem to be growing a lot more leaves than in the
    > past.  I have a couple of silos that I need to get the backhaul
    higher
    > than the 10' mast will allow.  If I can get above the dome, I could
    > also increase the covereage area.
    > So, the question is, for those of you using silos, how to you get
    above
    > the dome?
    >
    >

    --
    Scott Reed
    Sr. Systems Engineer
    GAB Midwest
    1-800-363-1544 x2241
    1-260-827-2241
    Cell: 260-273-7239



    
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