We are a ways apart. I am in central Iowa. I have had the best luck augering or digging a hole and setting the end in the hole to keep it from kicking out. You don't have to go very deep. Pour gravel around it to keep water from sitting on the steel.
I pay $20.00 per stick and take it down for them. Or I will pay $30 if it's not rusted and just sitting. A case of Rustoleum cold galvanized can make even an ancient one look new. _____ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 7:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mounting on silos East central Indiana, I70 at the IN-OH state line. That may be the best way. Should be lots of old TV tower that we could get for taking it down. Stand it up beside the silo and bolt it to the side. Should be able to get 2 sections (20') above the concrete, so should clear the dome. Mike wrote: I am always on the lookout for derelict Rohn 25 sections. I buy them and stack them behind my barn. I recently bought this steel thing with a hinged base that telescopes to 45 feet or so. I would think if you augered a hole in the ground, planted a Rohn 25, you could stabilize it against the ladder. Where are you located (I'm too lazy today to figure out), maybe I can help you out. Mike _____ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 5:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mounting on silos we have discussed hiring a helicopter to fly upside down at 40' AGL. Mike wrote: Poulon Pro 20 inch chainsaws are on sale at Northern; around $100. Mike _____ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 11:11 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mounting on silos Yep, we do the radios at the bottom on these. Part of what prompted the post is that the trees grew this spring and we need to the the antenna higher. And then we have those few that we need to get 360* coverage from, so we need to get above the dome. Marlon K. Schafer wrote: One way to handle that (I often do this because I'm very afraid of heights) is to mount the antennas at the top then run good cable down to a nice play for the radios. LMR 600 only looses 3 or 4 dB per hundred feet. For runs of less than 50ish feet I'll usually just use LMR 400. If 3 dB of cable loss kills your system you'll be fighting it every time something changes (heavy rain, fog etc.) anyway. Yeah I know weather isn't supposed to affect these bands but someone forgot to tell the radios that :-). marlon ----- Original Message ----- From: Justin <mailto:li...@mtin.net> Wilson To: WISPA General List <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 7:31 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mounting on silos Most silos like scott is dealing with have no ladder going to the very top. Imagine a domed water tower with no ladder to the top of the dome. They never were designed to have to climb to the top. No reason to. So what you are left with is a ladder that goes to where the dome starts. You then have another 10 feet or more to be able to get over the top of the dome. In otherwords, you can't mount at the top of the dome. You have to come up with a solution to get you over the dome. Sure, you could bring in a lift or crane and mount stuff. However, maintenance and repair become the issue. You have to bring that lift in each time because you can't climb to the top of the dome. Justin -- Justin Wilson <j...@mtin.net> http://www.mtin.net/blog Wisp Consulting - Tower Climbing - Network Support _____ size=3 width="95%" align=center> From: Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:15:17 -0400 To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mounting on silos How is that any different then any other tower? Especially a water tower. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Scott Reed <scottr...@onlyinternet.net> wrote: Especially the one with an open ladder, no cage. Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > Some of them old silo's like you are describing are pretty scary. I've been > on them too and seen a lot of safety issues from the fall protection cage > being rusted through and falling, to the top cap trying to fall off. Just be > careful climbing those things! > > Kurt Fankhauser > WAVELINC > P.O. Box 126 > Bucyrus, OH 44820 > 419-562-6405 > www.wavelinc.com <http://www.wavelinc.com> > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Scott Reed > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 7:56 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] Mounting on silos > > I have a couple of POPs that are silos. Several of them are old > concrete silos with metal domes. The top of the dome is more than 10' > above the top of the concrete. I have been mounting with 10' pipe on > the ladder side and not servicing customers on the "back" side. It has > also worked out that the backhauls are on the ladder side as well. > This year the trees seem to be growing a lot more leaves than in the > past. I have a couple of silos that I need to get the backhaul higher > than the 10' mast will allow. If I can get above the dome, I could > also increase the covereage area. > So, the question is, for those of you using silos, how to you get above > the dome? > > -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x2241 1-260-827-2241 Cell: 260-273-7239 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- WISPA Wants You! 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