I contacted Akamai a while back about this program, and yes I believe they also told me 75mbps was the magic number.
-- Blake Covarrubias On Aug 30, 2010, at 12:43, "Nick Olsen" <[email protected]> wrote: > No clue, Just going from what I vaguely recall someone saying... > Like I said, I think I heard it here, Might have been on NANOG. > > Nick Olsen > Network Operations > (321) 205-1100 x106 > > > > > From: "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 2:52 PM > To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's > > Does that 75 megabits also apply when you are looking to connect via a public > peering point? Some CDN type networks waive or minimize those requirements > if you connect via a public exchange. > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > On 8/30/2010 12:34 PM, Nick Olsen wrote: >> >> Not sure where I heard it (Here I think..) but the magic number is something >> like 75Mb/s sustained. So unless you have a few thousand customers, Your >> most likely quite below that level. >> Blocking a CDN could be a big problem. You never know how much of the worlds >> content is CDN based till you do this. Blocking any of the big ones (Akamai, >> Limelight.. Bitgravity (to a lesser extent)) will break more things then you >> can even imagine. If someone is abusing your service, I would rate limit >> them. >> >> >> >> To put it in perspective. We have two upstreams, One is prepended, making >> the something like 80% of the internet prefer the un-prepended transit. >> However, the bandwidth was almost level across the board, This had me >> stumped. Turns out every CDN I could find liked the prepended transit >> better. So even though 20% of the internet liked that transit, that 20% >> happened to include some of the most bandwidth intensive things around.... >> >> Nick Olsen >> Network Operations >> (321) 205-1100 x106 >> >> >> >> >> From: "Justin Wilson" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 1:22 PM >> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's >> >> AS # is for BGP advertisements. Akamai has a program for ISPs who use a >> good deal of bandwidth to their network. >> http://www.akamai.com/html/partners/network_program.html >> >> Basically you give them your AS (you have to be multi homed) and they >> see if you meet the minimum bandwidth to their network. Your upstream(s) >> might already be accelerated so you should make some inquiries. >> >> Justin >> -- >> Justin Wilson <[email protected]> >> http://www.mtin.net/blog – xISP News >> http://www.twitter.com/j2sw – Follow me on Twitter >> Wisp Consulting – Tower Climbing – Network Support >> >> >> >> From: Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected]> >> Reply-To: WISPA General List <[email protected]> >> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 13:15:45 -0400 >> To: 'WISPA General List' <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's >> >> Interesting, whats an AS# ? >> >> >> Kurt Fankhauser >> WAVELINC >> P.O. Box 126 >> Bucyrus, OH 44820 >> 419-562-6405 >> >> >> >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Michael Baird >> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 12:59 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's >> >> Just contact Akamai, and give them your AS #, if you are using any amount of >> bandwidth they will colocate in your facilities (for free), so you can serve >> much of the Akamai content locally. >> >> Regards >> Michael Baird >> >> >> Whats your thoughts on blocking limelight IP’s just for the customers that >> are abusing the service. >> >> >> Kurt Fankhauser >> WAVELINC >> P.O. Box 126 >> Bucyrus, OH 44820 >> 419-562-6405 >> >> >> >> >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of David E. Smith >> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 12:27 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's >> >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:07, Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Whats the IP’s to block so my customers can’t use Netflix and Hulu. >> >> >> >> >> It would be just about impossible to do. Netflix uses Akamai, and Hulu uses >> a mixture of Akamai and Limelight for "content delivery" services. These are >> the same content-delivery services used by just about everyone that has lots >> of content to distribute to lots of people (I'm pretty sure Microsoft uses >> Akamai for Windows Update, for instance) - Akamai claims they're responsible >> for 15 to 20 percent of all Web traffic on any given day, so blocking Akamai >> wholesale would probably be the worst idea. >> >> >> >> David Smith >> >> MVN.net >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> WISPA Wants You! 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