Not sure where I heard it (Here I think..) but the magic number is something 
like 75Mb/s sustained. So unless you have a few thousand customers, Your most 
likely quite below that level.
Blocking a CDN could be a big problem. You never know how much of the worlds 
content is CDN based till you do this. Blocking any of the big ones (Akamai, 
Limelight.. Bitgravity (to a lesser extent)) will break more things then you 
can even imagine. If someone is abusing your service, I would rate limit them.

To put it in perspective. We have two upstreams, One is prepended, making the 
something like 80% of the internet prefer the un-prepended transit. However, 
the bandwidth was almost level across the board, This had me stumped. Turns out 
every CDN I could find liked the prepended transit better. So even though 20% 
of the internet liked that transit, that 20% happened to include some of the 
most bandwidth intensive things around....

Nick Olsen
Network Operations
(321) 205-1100 x106

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From: "Justin Wilson" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 1:22 PM
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

    AS # is for BGP advertisements. Akamai has a program for ISPs who use a 
good deal of bandwidth to their network.
http://www.akamai.com/html/partners/network_program.html

    Basically you give them your AS (you have to be multi homed) and they see 
if you meet the minimum bandwidth to their network.  Your upstream(s) might 
already be accelerated so you should make some inquiries.

    Justin
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From: Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected]>
Reply-To: WISPA General List <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 13:15:45 -0400
To: 'WISPA General List' <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

Interesting, whats an AS# ?


Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405



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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Michael Baird
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 12:59 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

Just contact Akamai, and give them your AS #, if you are using any amount of 
bandwidth they will colocate in your facilities (for free), so you can serve 
much of the Akamai content locally.

Regards
Michael Baird

Whats your thoughts on blocking limelight IP's just for the customers that are 
abusing the service.


Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405



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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of David E. Smith
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 12:27 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's



On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:07, Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected]> wrote:

Whats the IP's to block so my customers can't use Netflix and Hulu.


It would be just about impossible to do. Netflix uses Akamai, and Hulu uses a 
mixture of Akamai and Limelight for "content delivery" services. These are the 
same content-delivery services used by just about everyone that has lots of 
content to distribute to lots of people (I'm pretty sure Microsoft uses Akamai 
for Windows Update, for instance) - Akamai claims they're responsible for 15 to 
20 percent of all Web traffic on any given day, so blocking Akamai wholesale 
would probably be the worst idea.

David Smith

MVN.net




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