Would a RB1000 and HP Procurve work? On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Matt Jenkins <m...@smarterbroadband.net> wrote: > Yikes $40k again. I am trying to come up with a sub $12k solution. > > On 09/11/2010 02:39 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote: >> No I haven't. But I will look into it now. Let me know how your talk >> with the sales guys goes? >> >> On 09/11/2010 02:38 PM, Jon Auer wrote: >> >>> That makes sense. >>> BGP over a VPLS VC shouldn't be any different than BGP across a >>> Ethernet cable AFAIK. >>> >>> Have you checked out the Alcatel-Lucent SR series routers? I'm >>> supposed to be talking to one of their sales reps next week. They nare >>> really trying to gain market share and i hear hey have some good >>> deals. >>> >>> On Saturday, September 11, 2010, Matt Jenkins<m...@smarterbroadband.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I am thinking its time to use a switch as a switch and a router as a >>>> router. I am thinking about using this for the MPLS backbone and put in >>>> actual 7200/7300 routers at locations where full BGP needs to be >>>> offered. What I haven't yet worked out is whether two routers can >>>> establish a BGP peering session over a VPLS VC. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 09/11/2010 01:25 PM, Jon Auer wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Beware of the TCAM size on that box. >>>>> IIRC it hasn't been able to take full internet routes since 2008 >>>>> because of that limitation. >>>>> >>>>> On Saturday, September 11, 2010, Matt Jenkins<m...@smarterbroadband.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> After many days of searching it looks like I found something in the sub >>>>>> $20k range. The ME-C6524GT-8S appears to do it all. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 09/08/2010 04:16 PM, Jon Auer wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Needing full BGP routes takes you out of the realm of cheap Layer 3 >>>>>>> switches... >>>>>>> You need to worry about TCAM (hardware route memory) in addition to >>>>>>> RAM on Layer 3 switches and apart from decked out Cisco 6500s or >>>>>>> greater you aren't going to find that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Juniper MX80 should work. It is 2U and can have 48 GigE ports. You >>>>>>> should be able to get it for $30-50K. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Alternatively you could try a multihop BGP setup like Cogent has been >>>>>>> known to do. >>>>>>> Setup one BGP session between the customer and your Layer 3 switch at >>>>>>> the tower. This carriers a route for your border router/route >>>>>>> reflector to the customer and vice versa. >>>>>>> Then setup a BGP session between the customer and your border >>>>>>> router/route reflector. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Or you could drag MPLS into it but 2 simple BGP sessions seems like >>>>>>> the most straightforward solution to me. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Matt Jenkins<m...@smarterbroadband.net> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am trying to find a Layer 3 switch that has 24 or 48 1000 base-T >>>>>>>> ports >>>>>>>> with enough RAM to handle Full BGP Internet Routes. Anyone have any >>>>>>>> suggestions? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For those who wonder why.... I am upgrading all of my backhauls to >>>>>>>> support ~300mbps. 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