Jim that is an excellent point. Its how our climbers did it that we pay. They 
draw the direction to point on the ground with spray paint or something. Then 
when on the tower, looking down, its pretty easy to align the feed with the 
line on the ground.  For up down, I've seen them use levels on the dish, and 
pre-calculate the downtilt.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jim Patient 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 6:00 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment


  We " hillbilly" them up all the time and most of the time don't need to go 
back to tower 1.  Every once in a while we might have to go back and tweak the 
alignment a little.  I use Delorme Topo USA and a GPS receiver on my laptop.  
Mark both locations and draw a line between the towers.  Zoom in and start 
walking directly away from the tower in the direction of the link and keep the 
little arrow thingy on the line.  I go out a few hundred feet, make sure I'm on 
the line and drop a direction target to shoot at. 

  Jim Patient 

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  On 10/19/2010 10:16 AM, Mark Nash wrote: 
    Question:  What tools do you use to blindly put up the first end of a ptp 
without having a visual on the other side?

    Details:

    When deploying ptp dishes... One team doing both ends at different times.

    The first dish must be aligned without a connecting radio at the other end.

    We know how to get uptilt/downtilt/azimuth from Radio Mobile.

    Uptilt/downtilt is easy to do with a simple gauge.  Azimuth is a different 
story.  If you can see the site that you're aiming for, no big deal, but what 
if you can't?

    We have a number of backhaul upgrades to do in the next few months, and we 
have alot of fog here in the mornings this time of year.




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