I run up a 3 foot helium balloon and use a pair of binoculars.
Works every time.
NGL
  From: Data Technology 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:06 AM
  To: WISPA General List 
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment


  I just did a ptp install of 5g 2ft rocket dishs at 6.47 miles and could not 
see either tower.

  Now I already had a ptp link to another tower from tower 1 so this helped.
  I used Google Earth to map out the points and then used the ruler to connect 
each ptp link.
  I took the map with me on tower 1 and mounted and aligned the dish.  I just 
eyeballed the direction of the dish in relation to the existing dish using the 
Google map.  I got everything powered up and then went to tower 2.

  At tower 2 I had a landmark that I thought was close to the right direction. 
Mounted dish and pointed at landmark and had a signal.  I then aligned dish 
while guy on ground gave signal reports.

  I have not gone back up on tower 1 yet to tweak dish.  I actually have a 67 
signal when lingowave said it should be 57 so I do need to align dish on tower 
1.

  I did not want to believe Google maps at first but when I actually got up on 
tower I could tell it was about right.

  I have tried using a compass but on a tower the compass will not work 
correctly.  Guess the metal structure throws the magnetic field off.


  On 10/19/2010 10:16 AM, Mark Nash wrote: 
    Question:  What tools do you use to blindly put up the first end of a ptp 
without having a visual on the other side?

    Details:

    When deploying ptp dishes... One team doing both ends at different times.

    The first dish must be aligned without a connecting radio at the other end.

    We know how to get uptilt/downtilt/azimuth from Radio Mobile.

    Uptilt/downtilt is easy to do with a simple gauge.  Azimuth is a different 
story.  If you can see the site that you're aiming for, no big deal, but what 
if you can't?

    We have a number of backhaul upgrades to do in the next few months, and we 
have alot of fog here in the mornings this time of year.


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