Back when I worked for ATT Wireless, we had a contractor do that exact
thing. We had some complaints and made the contractor switch to licensed.

On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Tom DeReggi <wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net>wrote:

> Sounds like Tsunami/Linx equivellent, running DSSS using most of the band
> to
> deliver a few T1s.
> The carriers use unlicenced for the same reason we do.  They sub it out to
> a
> contractor, and then the contractor comes up with a solution that takes the
> least planning.
> Dont take it personally, the carriers usually dont use the Spectrum hogg
> gear to hurt you, instead they use it for selfish reasons. They figure use
> the protocol that require the least SNR so they minimize the risk of others
> can step on them.  I hate that.
>
> One option is that you can deploy licensed wireless, and then go to the
> cellular company and try to sell them a more reliable circuit, maybe even
> at
> a discount.
> ONe thing that you might be able to use to your advantage is..... Often the
> big carrier deploys unlicensed with the mentality that because its
> unlicensed that they dont have to tell anyone at the tower, or license that
> specific freq with teh tower owner. Meaning, they may not have the right to
> use that spectrum at the tower nailed down.  So you might be able to
> license
> the use of that spectrum at the site, if you try.  They likely are only
> protected by a first in non-interference clause, if they listed the
> ubnlicensed gear in their tower agreement.
> You might be able to re-use the spectrum if you give your self about a
> 100ft
> of seperation.
>
> I guess my point is.... Dont assume that The cellular carrier who owns the
> gear is the one that you have to negotiate with. Thats not necessarilly a
> given.
>
> Remember, interference can be bi-directional. And you ahve the ability to
> interfere with them if you also use inefficient technology. That always
> creates some leverage for everyone to play nice togeather.
>
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
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> From: "Jeromie Reeves" <jree...@18-30chat.net>
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> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 10:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] VZW, USCC Contact
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> >I figured it might be a upcliff battle. That is what gets me, they DO
> > have licensed. My guess is someone figured out if they squish the band
> > it slow us down. Fully HALF the lower UNII4 band is hosed here, even
> > airmax is not working. Oh how I wish Ubnt would come out with some
> > UNII2/3 gear (namely, just add DFS2 to the existing product, or maybe
> > if the crazy idea that WE need to avoid military radar would go away).
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Cameron Kilton <c...@midcoast.com>
> wrote:
> >> Good luck, we had a similar issue, I'm still trying to figure out why
> >> they don't go licensed.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Cameron Kilton
> >>
> >> On 11/9/2010 2:30 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote:
> >>> Anyone have a contact at Verizon Wireless or Us Cellular? They have
> >>> some towers here that are now sitting all over the<5755 making it
> >>> totally unusable and some other portions of the band. Would like to
> >>> try to work out some frequency sharing, anyone ever been able to?
> >>>
> >>> Jeromie
> >>>
> >>>
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