----- Original Message ----- From: "n4zkf" <towert...@n4zkf.com> To: <towert...@contesting.com> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 5:33 AM Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Breaking all the tower climbing rulesat an amazingheight...
> Horse Hockey! "The safer a situation seems to be breeds complacency, > that's > when accidents happen" > That's the biggest bunch of BS I have heard in years. > > I have scrapped more than one person off the ground from GC's that fell > 150ft+ saying "I won't fall". Try to scrape a body of jelly into a bag > after > his fall. > > I have 8000 towers under me with 15 people on them every day. I have NEVER > had one of them get hurt in over 10 years. WHY? BECAUSE THEY DON'T FREE > CLIMB. > They also have a rescue bag laying at the bottom of the tower before the > climbers go up in case someone gets in trouble. > > I started in telecom climbing Broadcast towers 20 years ago when > free-climbing was the norm. It was stupid then and it's stupid now. It's > not > worth losing your life for! > Tell me what company you work for because you will never be on one of our > towers. > > Sorry for the soapbox guys but when I hear this stuff my blood boils. 100% > tie off at all times! Period! I have seen people die in person. (it didn't > matter if they worked > for me or not) They died free-climbing. > > > Dave > > > -----Original Message----- > From: towertalk-boun...@contesting.com > [mailto:towertalk-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Mike > Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 11:41 PM > To: towert...@contesting.com > Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Breaking all the tower climbing rules at an > amazingheight... > > Many people free climb to some extent, I know I do, if you are so worried > about free climbing then you obviously should not climb at all. Many > professionals that monitor this group free climb before they clip in. > Many > people free climb 100 foot trees for a living, I have climbed trees and it > is way more dangerous because of slippery conditions and many unknowns, it > just makes you way more careful. > > The safer a situation seems to be breeds complacency, that's when > accidents > happen. If you slip and fall in your full harness at a 100 feet you have > about 4-5 minutes for someone to get up there and get your feet on the > tower > before the blood pools in your legs and you die because of the tourniquet > affect of the thigh straps. > > I bet nobody that climbs ham radio towers does a "what if scenario" if I > should fall, who is going to climb up and get me. While your hanging > there > maybe unconscious because you have hit your head on the ten foot drop, > everyone on the ground is running around like headless chickens. Maybe > 911, > forget that, none of those guys have any idea how to get you off the tower > because they do not have training or the equipment. > > If you are going to fall it is not when you are climbing, it is when you > are > at the top doing the antenna placement and something slips and hits you or > crushes your fingers, that's when you need to be tied in with short > Lanyards. > > Better to be fit and careful and not fall of in the first place. > > Mick > > -----Original Message----- > > > This made the rounds on here a couple months back. Couple weeks ago it > even > showed up on "The Weather Channel" videos. They must not screen them and > no > way to tell them what it was. > > I still don't understand the psychology behind people getting ill, or > unable > to watch. > > 73 > > Roger (K8RI) > > > On 12/1/2010 5:12 PM, Joe Giacobello, K2XX wrote: >> Seems to be a commercial operation. I guess the OSHA inspector >> couldn't (wouldn't) make an on-site inspection. Also, note the >> porcupine dissipators on the way up. >> >> > http://www.liveleak.com/mp53/player.swf?config=http://www.liveleak.com/mp53/ > player_config.php?token=f2d_1284588370%26embed=1 >> >> 73, Joe >> K2XX >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TowerTalk mailing list >> towert...@contesting.com >> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk >> > _______________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > TowerTalk mailing list > towert...@contesting.com > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk > > _______________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > TowerTalk mailing list > towert...@contesting.com > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk > > _______________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > TowerTalk mailing list > towert...@contesting.com > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
