Yeah, external filters are not an option for me.  They are going to work 
or...

The Trango and Radwin equipment may have a chance.  I'm not really giving 
the UBNT stuff a chance at all.  Am I being too pessimistic?  Its the 
ethernet I've had the most problems with in the past, not the radios 
receivers....

Scott Carullo
Technical Operations
855-FLSPEED x102

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From: "Bob Moldashel" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 6:39 PM
To: [email protected], "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Power RF close-proximity on tower question

Filtering is pretty moot when you consider they are in plastic housings 
with no significant shielding....  :-)

-B-

On 12/20/2010 6:31 PM, Leon D. Zetekoff wrote:
> On 12/20/2010 05:56 PM, Jack Unger wrote:
>> There is QUITE a difference between a separation distance of 20 ft and 
a
>> separation distance of 100 yards. Remember the inverse-square law - RF 
intensity
>> decreases as the SQUARE of the separation distance. 100 yards is 300 
feet and 20
>> feet goes into 300 feet 15 times so the RF intensity at 100 yards is the 
inverse
>> of 15 squared (15X15) or the inverse of 225. Inverting 225 means that 
the
>> intensity at 100 yards is only 1/225th as much as at 20 feet. Scott's 
equipment
>> is going to be exposed to 225 times greater RF energy than yours so his
>> equipment is likely to be overloaded with receiver de-sensitization 
while your
>> equipment may be OK.
>>
>> The solution is to "do everything right" as Scott says. The 11 GHz 
equipment is
>> likely so far away from the FM and TV frequencies that it is probably 
OK. The
>> solution for 2.4 and 5 GHz is use proper bandpass filters between the 
antennas
>> and the equipment then test to see if the receivers seem to have full
>> sensitivity or not.
>>
> Jack is 100% correct. Remember these radios do not have much filtering
> in the front-ends so you have to make up for it with external 
accessories.
>
> Leon
>> jack
>>
>>
>> On 12/20/2010 2:34 PM, Bret Clark wrote:
>>
>>>> On 12/20/2010 1:30 PM, Scott Carullo wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ok, I've dealt with up to about 20KW on FM transmitter 20 feet away
>>>>> and dealt with it decently.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now I'm told one of our installs of gear on a tower is about to get 
a
>>>>> 100KW 20ft above my gear and a TV antenna 20ft below it at 700KW
>>>>> channel 39 I think.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone have gear running close to this kind of high-power antennas?
>>>>> Am I screwed or will I be able to have my equipment work int his RF
>>>>> environment?  Assume I did everything right (grounded metal box,
>>>>> shielded cable soldered drain wires, ferrite cores on the cables 
etc...).
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Scott Carullo
>>>>> Technical Operations
>>>>> 855-FLSPEED x102
>>>>>
>>> We are running 5.8 and 3.65 stuff on towers with 100KW TV systems on 
the
>>> tower located about a 100 yards from us on another tower...no 
problems.
>>> Probably not much difference between 100KW 20 feet or 100 yards apart.
>>>
>
>
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