Faisal -- "YODA?" hehe

On 12/21/10 3:16 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappydsl.net> wrote:

> I think you mis-reading what Fred Wrote...
> 
> Wireline (wires in the ground) are a natural monopoly...
> 
> Wireline  does not automatically equal = Wired Telephony..
> 
> As Yoda Said... "Difficult it is to see where going we are, if we
> understand not how we got here "
> 
> 
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet&  Telecom
> 
> On 12/21/2010 4:08 PM, MDK wrote:
>> So, I disagree with his premise, and his argument about the premise, that
>> wired telephony is a "natural monopoly", and I'm not allowed to say so?
>> What, who speaks first is now the authority and cannot be questioned?
>> 
>> All of what he said is based upon the "natural monopoly" premise, and since
>> we disagree on that premise, we don't have anything to debate about what he
>> said, I disagree with his conclusions.
>> 
>> This is neither disrespectful nor insulting.   And, since it's somewhat off
>> the topic of this thread, I chose to not further pursue it.
>> 
>> Now, can we get on with whatever our conversation will be about the matter
>> of import, at least at this point in time?
>> 
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>> From: "Faisal Imtiaz"<fai...@snappydsl.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 12:31 PM
>> To: "WISPA General List"<wireless@wispa.org>
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Flexible rules promised for wireless
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>>> It is tough to have a meaningful discussion when you make comments as
>>> such ..
>>> 
>>> You don't have to agree with Fred, but if you listen to him with and
>>> open mind, at worst you will end up learning about a whole series of
>>> events that got us this point...
>>> 
>>> And it is not due to some individual who went to Washington and Kissed
>>> someone !
>>> 
>>> :)
>>> 
>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>> Snappy Internet&   Telecom
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 12/21/2010 3:06 PM, MDK wrote:
>>>> I wholeheartedly disagree with your premise.
>>>> 
>>>>>  From that point on, we have little to debate about.
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> From: "Fred Goldstein"<fgoldst...@ionary.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 11:43 AM
>>>> To: "WISPA General List"<wireless@wispa.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Flexible rules promised for wireless
>>>> 
>>>>> At 12/21/2010 01:57 PM, MDK wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> The whole problem was creating monopolies in the first place, and then
>>>>>> pretending you can "fix" what you broke by half-baked notions of
>>>>>> government
>>>>>> created markets...
>>>>> Uh, no.  Wireline is a natural monopoly.  That is NOT what it has
>>>>> sometimes been taken to mean, an excuse to regulate.  Rather, it's an
>>>>> economics concept, which means that the cost of entering the market
>>>>> as a new provider is substantially higher than the cost to an
>>>>> existing provider of adding incremental capacity.  In other words,
>>>>> the incumbent can always underprice the new entrant, so it's
>>>>> impossible to compete.
>>>> 
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