I agree. v4 space IS running out. Cellular co's are looking to move to a v6 space and drop the nat that most of them run. I already run dual stack on my MT's. I am waiting for Ubnt to add v6 so I can hand directly to end users as well. There are like 7 /8's left and IIRC China gobbled 2 in 2010 and is expected to take another in February or March. AfriNIC is expected to take one as well, that will then trigger the last 5 to be handed out. Then we are looking at the end of v4 space. ARIN will have its total allocations and once they hand out what they have, there is no more to be hand unless someone gives up space. Can I have your v4 IPs? v6 will be a must by the end of this year, middle of 2012 at the latest. Hmm, maybe them Myans really did know something, its 1999 all over again!!
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Scott Reed <[email protected]> wrote: > Direct answer to the queston is, "you will not know when it is turned on." > IPv6 is a new protocol that uses different header information in the > packets. If you don't turn on support on your devices, they will ignore > the packets. > > I disagree with Fred's opinions. Not everything is going to run v4 > until v6 is prevalent. There will soon be content that is only > available via v6. We are going to need to be able to get our customers > access to v6 sometime in the not too distant future. > > Since IPv6 has been standardized by the IETF, I don't think it is any > longer a Cisco dream. It is going to become a prevalent part of the > internet. > > On 1/13/2011 10:19 AM, Fred Goldstein wrote: >> At 1/13/2011 10:00 AM, GregI wrote: >>> I've got a small network with a MT RB-750 and UBNT (PS2's, NSL2's, >>> NSLM5's, NSM5's and a BulletM2) and I'm wondering how we're going to >>> fair if/when our upstream throws the switch on IPv6. I'd like to >>> hear someone else is already doing it. >>> >>> Our "upstream" apparently is Hughesnet being resold in South >>> America. I'm not sure if their system/our modem is IPv6 >>> capable/ready. That may keep us on IPv4 and tunneled/nat'ed to IPv6 >>> for some time. >> Personal opinion: IPv6 is worth less than the paper its RFC is >> printed on. Ignore it and it will go away. Really. >> >> If one of your subscribers really needs to reach something only >> accessible via IPv6, they can tunnel out. But since there is no >> compatibility, the "transition" plan requires dual stack. So >> everything runs v4 until everybody is on v6. But since there's >> always more on v4 (everybody) than on v6 (those who have added the >> dual stack), there's no incentive for users to move to v4. The only >> benefit is to some ISPs, not to users. So users have little reason >> to move. (Sometimes users are smarter than some ISPs.) Plus v6 is >> an abomination, a misdesign of immense proportions, so you shouldn't >> buy into Cisco's fantasies. >> >> -- >> Fred Goldstein k1io fgoldstein "at" ionary.com >> ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ >> +1 617 795 2701 >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > -- > Scott Reed > Owner > NewWays Networking, LLC > Wireless Networking > Network Design, Installation and Administration > Mikrotik Advanced Certified > www.nwwnet.net > (765) 855-1060 > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
