I don't see the list as a replacement but 1 more good tool in the tool box think its more to replace AFMUG we are all getting sick of chuck getting angry
On 1/24/2011 12:11 PM, Charles N Wyble wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Um.... people bash WISPA on this list occasionally. It's usually not > warranted. There are a few trolls that like to make trouble. Why do you > feel that we can't bash WISPA on this list? If there are legitimate > concerns with the organization, and one feels they are a threat to the > industry, then voice them. > > Also going on a list and complaining usually doesn't get anything done. > It just wastes peoples time and bandwidth. If someone has constructive > criticism, and a well reasoned argument/position, that will get > something done. > > I've subscribed to the WUG list. Hopefully it will be interesting and > not a waste of time, however I will probably start various new threads > on the WISPA list, as it has served my and many others needs quite well. > I've been on the list since 2008 and been very happy with it. Numerous > products/services/organizations have been praised when necessary, and > called out when necessary. So I'm not quite sure the purpose of the WUG > list. > > We will see what the WUG list does. My initial feelings, is that it will > be a fringe list that ends up doing a lot of harm to the industry. > Journalists will see lots of trolling and pick that out as the face of > the industry, because it makes better material for the sensationalist > media. > > I realize that as business owners, we have very strong opinions and > value our independence and rights. However we must also keep in mind > that we as an industry are under attack on a continuous basis. WISPA has > provided a focal point for us to coalesce around as an industry. They > have continuously shown a deep understanding of how to keep the industry > growing. They have produced a number of products (3.65 regs, > whitespaces, dfrs etc.) These end products take substantial amounts of > time and effort to produce. They have seen how the sausage is made, and > not been afraid to get their hands dirty. > > I hope to join WISPA in the near future and contribute my support. I've > been slowly ramping up my WISP and preparing to roll out a broad beta. > > I should get back to that now, have a demo due by the end of the week.... > > On 01/24/2011 09:29 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: >> To be entirely neutral. We can't bash WISPA if we wanted to, for example. >> We can't bash a company that is affiliated with WISPA. Probably not the >> best example, but this way we are entirely free to do what we want. >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Steve Barnes<st...@pcswin.com> wrote: >> >>> Not sure of the reason for this Post here. Isn't the wireless@wispa.org a >>> free non-vendor specific list? Is this a post to pull users from WISPA? >>> >>> Steve Barnes >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of Travis Johnson >>> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 11:36 AM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: [WISPA] new list >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> In an effort to create a neutral discussion forum, a new mailing list has >>> been created called Wireless Users Group. This list is 100% free, and is not >>> tied to any product or service being sold. It is hosted on a free server, >>> with free bandwidth and free administration. No fees or vendor sponsorship >>> will ever be asked by this new list. >>> >>> To subscribe to this new list, send an email to users-requ...@wug.cc with >>> "subscribe" in the subject field. >>> >>> We support many of the wireless pioneers in this industry such as Motorola, >>> Wireless Beehive, and WISPA. We would just prefer a vendor neutral list that >>> allows discussion of any product (whether good or bad) so that we can all >>> learn. >>> >>> __________________________________ >>> Wireless Users Group us...@wug.cc >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> WISPA Wants You! 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