Sneaky, sneaky sir.

I don't do much on Facebook.

Josh Luthman
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On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <li...@wavelinc.com>wrote:

>  You should have known that! We are facebook friends! Where were you
> hiding all these years Josh? I have been active on the lists since 2004 and
> don’t ever remember seeing your name, but just out of no-where you seem to
> have appeared and already know everything and now I am seeing your name all
> over the place, all the lists, whats up with that?
>
>
>
> Kurt Fankhauser
>
> Wavelinc Communications
>
> P.O. Box 126
>
> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>
> http://www.wavelinc.com
>
> 419-562-6405
>
>
>
> Sent from Microsoft Outlook
>
>
>   ------------------------------
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2011 10:16 AM
>
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES -
>
>
>
> Hey we're the same age!  I was 17 in 2005!
>
> On Jan 26, 2011 9:59 AM, "Mike Hammett" <wispawirel...@ics-il.net> wrote:
> > 18? Damn, he beat me then. I was only 22. :-p
> >
> > -----
> > Mike Hammett
> > Intelligent Computing Solutions
> > http://www.ics-il.com
> >
> >
> >
> > On 1/26/2011 8:24 AM, Rick Harnish wrote:
> >>
> >> Kurt was one of our first members signing up at WISPNOG in Chicago in
> >> 2005. He was 18 at the time I think. He took a few years off and
> >> came back last summer joining at the Summer Regional Meeting. It is
> >> good to have you back! You have been an impressive young entrepreneur
> >> to watch. I think you won a pretty nice door prize at the St. Louis
> >> Meeting didn't you?
> >>
> >> Rick
> >>
> >> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> >> *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:16 AM
> >> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
> >> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)
> >>
> >> Rick, I look forward to paying my WISPA dues this summer, it is one
> >> investment I know that will have a much higher ROI than anything else.
> >>
> >> Kurt Fankhauser
> >>
> >> Wavelinc Communications
> >>
> >> P.O. Box 126
> >>
> >> Bucyrus, OH 44820
> >>
> >> http://www.wavelinc.com
> >>
> >> 419-562-6405
> >>
> >> Sent from Microsoft Outlook
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> >> *On Behalf Of *Rick Harnish
> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:09 AM
> >> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
> >> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)
> >>
> >> Kurt,
> >>
> >> You are exactly right. Working inside the Beltway is very expensive.
> >> Office Rent, Malpractice insurance, hotels, food and just about
> >> everything else is twice what it is in the common world. However, to
> >> be clued in and in touch with the daily events that happen at the FCC
> >> and Congress, it is almost essential that we maintain a presence there
> >> through our attorney. Many associations have their corporate offices
> >> in the DC Metro Area. We are a long ways from doing that and we
> >> maintain our virtual offices across the country at Board Member
> >> offices and my little rented office in Indiana. We are appreciative
> >> of all the supplies, electricity, insurance and other expenses
> >> incurred by those that serve on the Board, so that we can maintain low
> >> overhead and dedicate the major portion of our revenue to go to
> >> lobbying type efforts.
> >>
> >> For those of you that are wondering. Our legal expenses last year
> >> were almost $100,000.
> >>
> >> I appreciate your kind words and we will continue to work for the
> >> industry. Hopefully others will join the members in supporting our
> >> efforts.
> >>
> >> Respectfully,
> >>
> >> *Rick Harnish*
> >>
> >> Executive Director
> >>
> >> WISPA
> >>
> >> 260-307-4000 cell
> >>
> >> 866-317-2851 WISPA Office
> >>
> >> Skype: rick.harnish.
> >>
> >> rharn...@wispa.org
> >>
> >> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> >> *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2011 8:11 AM
> >> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
> >> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)
> >>
> >> Rick,
> >>
> >> I just seen the total expenses sheet, and all I have to say is WOW. I
> >> had no idea that there was as much legal fees associated with running
> >> WISPA. Lets face it, these annual member fees are CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP
> >> compared to the overall cost of running WISPA. And right now pretty
> >> much everyone that is a WISP (paying member of WISPA or not) is
> >> getting benefit from this organization from the lobbying efforts and
> >> FCC agenda. I encourage anyone that is not a current member to sign
> >> up. I know that there are a TON of wisps out there that are not
> >> members. I would estimate that possibly only 25-50% of all total WISPS
> >> are members.
> >>
> >> The WISPS that are not current members should be ashamed of themselves
> >> because of all that they are benefitting from at the expense of the
> >> rest of us....
> >>
> >> Kurt Fankhauser
> >>
> >> Wavelinc Communications
> >>
> >> P.O. Box 126
> >>
> >> Bucyrus, OH 44820
> >>
> >> http://www.wavelinc.com
> >>
> >> 419-562-6405
> >>
> >> Sent from Microsoft Outlook
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> >> *On Behalf Of *Rick Harnish
> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 25, 2011 6:57 PM
> >> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
> >> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] new list
> >>
> >> Kurt,
> >>
> >> We will take this to the members list. I have a couple hours of work
> >> to get the P&L ready.
> >>
> >> Rick
> >>
> >> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> >> *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 25, 2011 6:21 PM
> >> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
> >> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] new list
> >>
> >> Rick,
> >>
> >> What does WISPA take in total for a years time and where is all this
> >> money going?
> >>
> >> Kurt Fankhauser
> >>
> >> Wavelinc Communications
> >>
> >> http://www.wavelinc.com
> >>
> >> P.O. Box 126
> >>
> >> Bucyrus, OH 44820
> >>
> >> 419-562-6405
> >>
> >> Sent from Microsoft Outlook
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> >> *On Behalf Of *Rick Harnish
> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 25, 2011 11:29 AM
> >> *To:* bo...@burrow.com; 'WISPA General List'
> >> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] new list
> >>
> >> It isn't about bashing WISPA in my view. It is providing input so
> >> that the WISPA Board can make the appropriate decisions that are
> >> representative of the majority of operators. The Board is made up of
> >> operators just like the rest of you and they are human, they make
> >> mistakes and they don't always have the funding or impact to get
> >> everything they want in regards to FCC policy. Any Board member will
> >> tell you that criticism is the name of the game. If you can't take
> >> it, you don't run the next year.
> >>
> >> Sure I wish we could be right all the time and never receive any
> >> criticism, but that will never happen. We pledge to do the best we
> >> can do. Understand that the Board is still a volunteer position and
> >> they do have a business to run as well. That is why they hired me to
> >> run the day to day affairs and stimulate the membership totals. Below
> >> is a graphic of WISPA revenues since March 2008. I started on August
> >> 1^st , 2010. You can see that typically, we have a revenue spike with
> >> every tradeshow that we do as our membership grows.
> >>
> >> January 2011 numbers are not complete yet but in general, we seem to
> >> be progressing nicely. The large spike was the Summer Regional Show
> >> in St. Louis. Obviously there were rather large offsetting costs but
> >> it was a profitable show for us.
> >>
> >> Respectively,
> >>
> >> *Rick Harnish*
> >>
> >> Executive Director
> >>
> >> WISPA
> >>
> >> 260-307-4000 cell
> >>
> >> 866-317-2851 WISPA Office
> >>
> >> Skype: rick.harnish.
> >>
> >> rharn...@wispa.org
> >>
> >> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> >> *On Behalf Of *Bobby Burrow
> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 25, 2011 10:30 AM
> >> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
> >> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] new list
> >>
> >> This is disappointing. IF you read the Mission Statement and Goals of
> >> WISPA, you would understand that this forum is not the place to vent
> >> or air ill feelings. We are supposed to be a community of peers that
> >> can look to each other for support and encouragement as we pursue of
> >> business goals.
> >>
> >> Freedom of speech in these public forums is not intended to be the
> >> freedom to complain or bash each other, let alone the organization
> >> that provides the service. I would suggest that those that feel that
> >> need should find another venue so the rest can continue on per the
> >> goals and mission as defined.
> >>
> >> Bobby Burrow
> >>
> >> WISPA Supporter
> >>
> >> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> >> *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> >> *Sent:* Monday, January 24, 2011 11:30 AM
> >> *To:* WISPA General List
> >> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] new list
> >>
> >> To be entirely neutral. We can't bash WISPA if we wanted to, for
> >> example. We can't bash a company that is affiliated with WISPA.
> >> Probably not the best example, but this way we are entirely free to do
> >> what we want.
> >>
> >> Josh Luthman
> >> Office: 937-552-2340
> >> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >> 1100 Wayne St
> >> Suite 1337
> >> Troy, OH 45373
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Steve Barnes <st...@pcswin.com
> >> <mailto:st...@pcswin.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Not sure of the reason for this Post here. Isn't the
> >> wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> a free non-vendor
> >> specific list? Is this a post to pull users from WISPA?
> >>
> >> Steve Barnes
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>
> >> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
> >> <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson
> >> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 11:36 AM
> >> To: WISPA General List
> >> Subject: [WISPA] new list
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> In an effort to create a neutral discussion forum, a new mailing list
> >> has been created called Wireless Users Group. This list is 100% free,
> >> and is not tied to any product or service being sold. It is hosted on
> >> a free server, with free bandwidth and free administration. No fees or
> >> vendor sponsorship will ever be asked by this new list.
> >>
> >> To subscribe to this new list, send an email to users-requ...@wug.cc
> >> with "subscribe" in the subject field.
> >>
> >> We support many of the wireless pioneers in this industry such as
> >> Motorola, Wireless Beehive, and WISPA. We would just prefer a vendor
> >> neutral list that allows discussion of any product (whether good or
> >> bad) so that we can all learn.
> >>
> >> __________________________________
> >> Wireless Users Group us...@wug.cc
> >>
> >>
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