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Victoria Proffer - President/CEO www.ShowMeBroadband.com www.StLouisBroadband.com <http://farmingtonforum.com/> www.FarmingtonForum.com 314-974-5600 From: Scott Reed [mailto:sr...@nwwnet.net] Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 7:54 AM To: li...@stlbroadband.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Obama want to control the wireless world Comments inline On 2/12/2011 8:41 AM, St. Louis Broadband wrote: Stuart, This is not ARRA monies, i.e., tax dollars. This is USF funds that have already been collected. Rather it is USF TAX DOLLARS. Come on, it is a government charge to redistribute the wealth, i.e., tax dollars. And I believe the current discussion is to create a new USF, so a new TAX stream. [>] If you want to say that the payment on your phone bill is the same as the IRS, ok, but I don't think that is technically correct. This is also the same network plan that my company developed and handed to U.S. CTO Aneesh Chopra. Our broadband stimulus plan was for a shared network, with Public Safety, mobile and fixed wireless. It was also a 'community based' so that the local communities shared in the profits . haven't seen that part yet . I don't want to share profits with the local community. I want to be able to run my capitalistic business for my shareholder's profit. Sure, we do the public good, we participate it community events, have been members of local government committees, but that does not mean we want to share the $$$. [>] When a community based network is setup, it is the same as having share holders, because they have an investment in the project. I think this is the new plan and to disband the CLEC . breaking up the monopoly! At least this is what I am hoping for. When was the last time you saw a monopoly broken up so there was competition? The telco monopoly has never been disbanded, just the name changed. Instead of one big Bell, there were multiple RBOCs, many of which have merged. But there is still only one ILEC (hence the name) and there is no way Washing is going to do anything to disband those big dollars. We may be able to get a small share of anything new, but the bulk will always go to where it can come back from the fastest. [>] Agreed! Maybe they are really trying to fix it! As least that is the impression that I got from Chopra and Genachowski. And I did have at least half hour conversations with each. BTW - The big dollars aren't going to be so big when the networks move from copper to wireless and they lose their government tit, the USF. Victoria Proffer - President/CEO <file:///\\www.ShowMeBroadband.com> www.ShowMeBroadband.com <file:///\\www.StLouisBroadband.com> www.StLouisBroadband.com <http://farmingtonforum.com/> www.FarmingtonForum.com 314-974-5600 -----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Stuart Pierce Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 7:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Obama want to control the wireless world Does everyone forget where this stimulus money comes from ( or will ) or what ? This stimulus money is turning everyone into Ostriches to the problems it brings now and the future. Most everyone I know in this industry for years has built out with their own capabilities. Can more money help build out more areas quicker ? Well hades yea ! This money isn't going back to the people, it's a loan believe it or not. They need to take all of this supposedly extra money and give it directly back to the people. If they want to promote broadband, then maybe a coupon idea, for verification and accountability only, is a good idea. The coupon is worth what, $31, based on the population of the USA of 315 million and the recent bandied about $10 million dollar figure. Best idea to promote broadband is not to tax it and make anything remotely associated with broadband, even a Wii, 100% deductible. Bottom line, if you've got this surplus of money in the government and want to stimulate the economy ( broadband or not ), give it back to the people. With that, Go Buckeyes !! ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Drew Lentz <mailto:d...@drewlentz.com> <d...@drewlentz.com> Reply-To: WISPA General List <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> <wireless@wispa.org> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 22:18:15 -0600 >Jack, this line stood out to me: >"Rather than piss and moan, when are we going to get our act together " > >You know, I might be in the minority here, but I see great things with this. >The fact that there is more stimulus money coming out to support building a >wireless infrastructure in this country, to me, is phenomenal. By supporting >groups like WISPA and making sure your voice is heard at the congressional >level, maybe some of the money can make it into the right hands to tie >together networks, allowing existing provides to increase build-out, and >help this country move forward. If we don't band together to shed light on >the subject of what can be done with the existing providers, you're right, >money will go to new guys that don't have an existing business in more rural >locations, who need to keep it local. The more we get the word out that we >are present, available, and ready and willing to work with the powers that >be (whether it be the FCC, the congress men and women, or their designated >contractors), the better our voice sounds. Don't take this as a WISPA >commercial .. take it as a big bright shining sign that we need to now, more >than ever, collect ourselves and get our voice loud and proud where it >matters. If its done right, we will all benefit from it. Maybe I am giving >too much credit to our government, but maybe we all need to remember that >change starts with every single one of us. If we all take one step forward >towards fixing this instead of complaining about it, that's quite a few >steps. > >-drew > >On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 5:57 AM, Marco Coelho <mailto:coelh...@gmail.com> <coelh...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I have written in a more eloquent way to various of my congresspeople, >> however, this was more of a quick rant on a yahoo message board. I am a >> true believer in democracy, capitalism, and the free market. I very >> strongly don't believe in socialism. >> >> I don't feel that the majority of those at the wheel at the moment have a >> clue as to what they are doing. They're more after sound bites and speech >> fodder. >> >> wispa is a good beginning for our industry, but there are some steps that >> would really help make some changes and mature this industry.. I'll try to >> put some of those down and post them up early next week. >> >> Marco >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Jack Unger <mailto:jun...@ask-wi.com> <jun...@ask-wi.com> wrote: >> >>> Marco, >>> >>> Your letter makes some great points but in somewhat insulting way that may >>> cause it to just be tossed aside rather than taken seriously. If you would >>> like me to re-write a future letter for you so that it makes it's points in >>> a more considerate way, I'll be happy to help you with that. >>> >>> I think this article shows just how far WISPs (and WISPA) need to go to >>> make elected officials aware that "all wireless isn't mobile". They seem >>> unaware that WISPs supply FIXED WIRELESS BROADBAND and that mobile broadband >>> is (like Matt Larsen says) "toy broadband". >>> >>> Rather than piss and moan, when are we going to get our act together and >>> get our message about the benefits of FIXED WIRELESS BROADBAND out to >>> Congress? >>> >>> jack >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2/10/2011 2:27 PM, Marco Coelho wrote: >>> >>> >>> Here's some more: >>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110210/ap_on_re_us/us_obama >>> >>> >>> my response: >>> >>> Dear Mr. President, >>> >>> I have built, own, and operate an Internet Service Provider (ISP) company. >>> I have done this with my OWN money, blood, sweat, and tears for over 13 >>> years. We presently cover 5000 square miles of previously unsupported areas. >>> So far your broadband stimulus moneys' have done nothing for my customers >>> but cause interference from wanabe ISPs using the peoples money to mess >>> things up. >>> >>> Sure, most of them will be out of business in a couple of years, but it's >>> still adds more work for those who have to live through it. We may even do >>> pretty well buying up all that equipment that was purchased with the peoples >>> monies and squandered. >>> >>> Leave business to the business people. We don't want your money, it came >>> with too many strings attached. Rather than sell radio spectrum, also an >>> asset of the people, you should designate more of it for the unlicensed >>> bands that us WISPs use. >>> >>> Marco Coelho >>> President, >>> Argon Technologies Inc. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Marco C. Coelho >>> Argon Technologies Inc. >>> POB 875 >>> Greenville, TX 75403-0875 >>> 903-455-5036 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. >>> Author (2003) - "Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks" >>> Serving the WISP, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- >>> WISPA Wants You! 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