If a T1 is involved in anything other than voice, then a disservice is being done. Either you're paying too much for the connectivity you're receiving or charging your customer too much.

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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



On 2/12/2011 8:16 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
T1 is far from legacy.

Regards,

Chuck


On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 9:17 AM, St. Louis Broadband <li...@stlbroadband.com <mailto:li...@stlbroadband.com>> wrote:

    How are they the only source for VoIP?  T1 is now legacy, so I
    doubt they will be selling much of that in the future.

    *Victoria Proffer - President/CEO*

    www.ShowMeBroadband.com <http://www.ShowMeBroadband.com>

    www.StLouisBroadband.com <http://www.StLouisBroadband.com>

    www.FarmingtonForum.com <http://farmingtonforum.com/>

    314-974-5600

    *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org
    <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>
    [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
    <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
    *Sent:* Saturday, February 12, 2011 8:11 AM


    *To:* WISPA General List
    *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Obama want to control the wireless world

    You wouldn't want to disband CLECs.  They're the ones that usually
    "deliver" T1 and T3 circuits (though people shouldn't be
    purchasing their service via T1 or T3) and the only source for
    VoIP access.

    -----

    Mike Hammett

    Intelligent Computing Solutions

    http://www.ics-il.com


    On 2/12/2011 7:41 AM, St. Louis Broadband wrote:

    Stuart,

    This is not ARRA monies, i.e., tax dollars.  This is USF funds
    that have already been collected.

    This is also the same network plan that my company developed and
    handed to U.S. CTO Aneesh Chopra.  Our broadband stimulus plan was
    for a shared network, with Public Safety, mobile and fixed
    wireless.  It was also a ‘community based’ so that the local
    communities shared in the profits … haven’t seen that part yet …

    I think this is the new plan and to disband the CLEC … breaking up
    the monopoly!  At least this is what I am hoping for.

    *Victoria Proffer - President/CEO*

    www.ShowMeBroadband.com

    www.StLouisBroadband.com

    www.FarmingtonForum.com <http://farmingtonforum.com/>

    314-974-5600

    -----Original Message-----
    From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
    <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>
    [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Stuart Pierce
    Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 7:28 AM
    To: WISPA General List
    Subject: Re: [WISPA] Obama want to control the wireless world

    Does everyone forget where this stimulus money comes from ( or
    will ) or what ? This stimulus money is turning everyone into
    Ostriches to the problems it brings now and the future.

    Most everyone I know in this industry for years has built out with
    their own capabilities. Can more money help build out more areas
    quicker ? Well hades yea !

    This money isn't going back to the people, it's a loan believe it
    or not. They need to take all of this supposedly extra money and
    give it directly back to the people.

    If they want to promote broadband, then maybe a coupon idea, for
    verification and accountability only, is a good idea. The coupon
    is worth what, $31, based on the population of the USA of 315
    million and the recent bandied about $10 million dollar figure.

    Best idea to promote broadband is not to tax it and make anything
    remotely associated with broadband, even a Wii, 100% deductible.

    Bottom line, if you've got this surplus of money in the government
    and want to stimulate the economy ( broadband or not ), give it
    back to the people.

    With that, Go Buckeyes !!

    ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------

    From: Drew Lentz <d...@drewlentz.com> <mailto:d...@drewlentz.com>

    Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
    <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>

    Date:  Fri, 11 Feb 2011 22:18:15 -0600

    >Jack, this line stood out to me:

    >"Rather than piss and moan, when are we going to get our act
    together "

    >

    >You know, I might be in the minority here, but I see great things
    with this.

    >The fact that there is more stimulus money coming out to support
    building a

    >wireless infrastructure in this country, to me, is phenomenal. By
    supporting

    >groups like WISPA and making sure your voice is heard at the
    congressional

    >level, maybe some of the money can make it into the right hands to tie

    >together networks, allowing existing provides to increase
    build-out, and

    >help this country move forward. If we don't band together to shed
    light on

    >the subject of what can be done with the existing providers,
    you're right,

    >money will go to new guys that don't have an existing business in
    more rural

    >locations, who need to keep it local. The more we get the word out
    that we

    >are present, available, and ready and willing to work with the
    powers that

    >be (whether it be the FCC, the congress men and women, or their
    designated

    >contractors), the better our voice sounds. Don't take this as a WISPA

    >commercial .. take it as a big bright shining sign that we need to
    now, more

    >than ever, collect ourselves and get our voice loud and proud where it

    >matters. If its done right, we will all benefit from it. Maybe I
    am giving

    >too much credit to our government, but maybe we all need to
    remember that

    >change starts with every single one of us. If we all take one step
    forward

    >towards fixing this instead of complaining about it, that's quite
    a few

    >steps.

    >

    >-drew

    >

    >On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 5:57 AM, Marco Coelho <coelh...@gmail.com>
    <mailto:coelh...@gmail.com> wrote:

    >

    >> I have written in a more eloquent way to various of my
    congresspeople,

    >> however, this was more of a quick rant on a yahoo message
    board.  I am a

    >> true believer in democracy, capitalism, and the free market.  I very

    >> strongly don't believe in socialism.

    >>

    >> I don't feel that the majority of those at the wheel at the
    moment have a

    >> clue as to what they are doing.    They're more after sound
    bites and speech

    >> fodder.

    >>

    >> wispa is a good beginning for our industry, but there are some
    steps that

>> would really help make some changes and mature this industry.. I'll try to

    >> put some of those down and post them up early next week.

    >>

    >> Marco

    >>

    >>

    >>

    >>

    >> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Jack Unger <jun...@ask-wi.com>
    <mailto:jun...@ask-wi.com> wrote:

    >>

    >>>  Marco,

    >>>

    >>> Your letter makes some great points but in somewhat insulting
    way that may

    >>> cause it to just be tossed aside rather than taken seriously.
    If you would

    >>> like me to re-write a future letter for you so that it makes
    it's points in

    >>> a more considerate way, I'll be happy to help you with that.

    >>>

    >>> I think this article shows just how far WISPs (and WISPA) need
    to go to

    >>> make elected officials aware that "all wireless isn't mobile".
    They seem

    >>> unaware that WISPs supply FIXED WIRELESS BROADBAND and that
    mobile broadband

    >>> is (like Matt Larsen says) "toy broadband".

    >>>

    >>> Rather than piss and moan, when are we going to get our act
    together and

    >>> get our message about the benefits of FIXED WIRELESS BROADBAND
    out to

    >>> Congress?

    >>>

    >>> jack

    >>>

    >>>

    >>>

    >>> On 2/10/2011 2:27 PM, Marco Coelho wrote:

    >>>

    >>>

    >>> Here's some more:

    >>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110210/ap_on_re_us/us_obama

    >>>

    >>>

    >>> my response:

    >>>

    >>> Dear Mr. President,

    >>>

    >>> I have built, own, and operate an Internet Service Provider
    (ISP) company.

    >>> I have done this with my OWN money, blood, sweat, and tears for
    over 13

    >>> years. We presently cover 5000 square miles of previously
    unsupported areas.

    >>> So far your broadband stimulus moneys' have done nothing for my
    customers

    >>> but cause interference from wanabe ISPs using the peoples money
    to mess

    >>> things up.

    >>>

    >>> Sure, most of them will be out of business in a couple of
    years, but it's

    >>> still adds more work for those who have to live through it. We
    may even do

    >>> pretty well buying up all that equipment that was purchased
    with the peoples

    >>> monies and squandered.

    >>>

    >>> Leave business to the business people. We don't want your
    money, it came

    >>> with too many strings attached. Rather than sell radio
    spectrum, also an

    >>> asset of the people, you should designate more of it for the
    unlicensed

    >>> bands that us WISPs use.

    >>>

    >>> Marco Coelho

    >>> President,

    >>> Argon Technologies Inc.

    >>>

    >>>

    >>> --

    >>> Marco C. Coelho

    >>> Argon Technologies Inc.

    >>> POB 875

    >>> Greenville, TX 75403-0875

    >>> 903-455-5036

    >>>

    >>>

    >>>

    >>>

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    >>>

    >>> --

    >>> Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc.

    >>> Author (2003) - "Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area
    Networks"

    >>> Serving the WISP, Networking and Telecom Communities since
    1993www.ask-wi.com <http://1993www.ask-wi.com>  818-227-4220
    jun...@ask-wi.com <mailto:jun...@ask-wi.com>

    >>>

    >>>

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    >>

    >>

    >> --

    >> Marco C. Coelho

    >> Argon Technologies Inc.

    >> POB 875

    >> Greenville, TX 75403-0875

    >> 903-455-5036

    >>

    >>

    >>

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