Scriv, At this time there is no way to tell because they got so nailed. You could say they lost electronic systems from CME, EQ or Tsunami
But when we had that quake a few weeks back from Arkansas, I felt it in Farmington and within a minute it took out about a dozen radios in St. Louis. They came back up within two minutes, but still, it was nothing I have ever seen. That was a 4.7 EQ and there were no CMEs at that time. ~V~ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 2:15 PM To: [email protected]; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT (sort of) - Earthquakes and Solar Flares Do we know if these areas suffered any marked increase in loss of electronic systems due to the CME or other solar related events? Scriv On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:21 AM, St. Louis Broadband <[email protected]> wrote: Ø I don't see a direct causal relationship, it would not totally surprise me to see a co-causal relationship Fred, I am not sure of their relationship, but I am confident that there is one. Grounding is defiantly an issue all WISPs need to consider. But it has been mentioned, if there was adequate warning, that we could also power down services and that would help in saving the equipment. I dont know if this is factual. The most important time for communications would be during and after these events. It would be improper of us to not look for a potential solution to protect our networks, so that we can help with the response. IMHO. ~V~ From: Fred Goldstein [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 11:06 AM To: [email protected]; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT (sort of) - Earthquakes and Solar Flares At 3/15/2011 10:29 AM, you wrote: ... With the last two X Class flares of this year, the X-Ray Absorption hit New Zealand and the second hit Japan! One-time we say coincidence, twice well, that is good enough for me to say that there is a correlation and to keep a watchful eye. The region my family and I live in, is within the New Madrid Fault Zone, I have reason to be concerned. What this theory gives us is, time. If this becomes factual (need a few more X class flares) than what we have discovered is a window of time to prepare. I don't see any causality between solar activity and earthquakes. The epicenter of the sendai quake was 25 kilometers below the surface. Plates move. Quakes happen. Most solar ejecta doesn't penetrate that far down, or if it's neutrinos, it passes right through. So we have two problems, earthquakes and solar crud. We still have to deal with them, even if one doesn't cause the other. Electrical gear does need to take this into account. I think good grounding is your friend... But even though I don't see a direct causal relationship, it would not totally surprise me to see a co-causal relationship, in that the same thing that causes the solar cycle may impact Earth too. The sunspot cycles are caused by the movement of the plants, whose relationships align every 11, 22, and 500-odd years in ways that impact sunspots, presumably via gravitational effects. That's how sunspot predictions are done (i learned this at a ham conference some years ago, a lecture by RCA Globecom's sunspot predictor, who also drew the sunspot furecasts for a ham magazine). And if their gravity can impact the sun, it can probably impact the Earth. -- Fred Goldstein k1io fgoldstein "at" ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 <tel:%2B1%20617%20795%202701> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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