I did read that just yesterday, Matt.  I noticed you don't have the 8 meg
package on your website =P

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On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists <[email protected]>wrote:

>  I have a very detailed breakdown of what we did to solve the UBB problem
> on my Wireless Cowboys blog.   You can read it here:
>
> http://www.wirelesscowboys.com/?p=88
>
> We went the NetFlow method and correlate customer IP addresses to their
> Freeside accounts to see who gets billed.   Right now, the list of violators
> is pretty small so we do the overage billing manually.    We have the option
> of building a batch transaction that gets imported into our billing system
> on the first of each month.    We also built a portal for users to check
> their own bandwidth utilization, and our system sends emails to users when
> they go over and a summary email to our techs with a list of all the people
> that are over.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Matt Larsen
> vistabeam.com
> www.wirelesscowboys.com
>
>
>
> On 5/3/2011 12:00 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:
>
> What happens if/when you reboot the MT? Don't you lose your counts? I would
> think a better idea would be to use traffic flow and an external NetFlow
> analyzer. We are working on this for Wispmon as another way (other than
> radius accounting) to do usage based billing with the product. The downside
> to this is that the "Traffic Flow" stream as they call it, does not output
> the mac field (even though one is available according to the NetFlow spec).
> So if you are using DHCP, it becomes harder to track with this method as you
> would have to constantly poll the routers to find out what mac they are
> attached to. RADIUS is fairly cumbersome too as you have to sum all the
> accounting sessions for a given user over a given time period.
>
> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]
> > wrote:
>
>> Joe - http://www.mikrotik-routeros.com/?p=24
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>  Direct: 937-552-2343
>>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>   On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Joe Miller <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Can this script be made available for everyone?
>>>
>>> Joe Miller
>>> DSLbyAir, LLC
>>> 228-831-8881
>>> www.dslbyair.com
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Stuart Pierce" <[email protected]>
>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>>>  Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 8:05 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should
>>> too.
>>>
>>>
>>> > I've been saying for a while now that you have to have bandwidth caps
>>> and
>>> > costs stated on your website somewhere, even if you are not charging
>>> for
>>> > them at this point. You also have to have some method of giving
>>> feedback
>>> > to them on their bandwidth consumption.
>>> >
>>> > Right now thanks to Josh for the heads up about Andrew Cox's script for
>>> a
>>> > Mikrotik box, I've done that and so far so good. It will email the
>>> client
>>> > when they reach percentages of usage with whatever you want the content
>>> of
>>> > the email to say.
>>> >
>>> > What did your letter say ?
>>> >
>>> > ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>>> > From: Mark Nash <[email protected]>
>>> > Reply-To: WISPA General List <[email protected]>
>>> > Date:  Mon, 02 May 2011 10:34:01 -0700
>>> >
>>> >>I think it's important for people to (after gaining an understanding of
>>> >>the impact they have on "shared" bandwidth) choose one of these...
>>> >>
>>> >>1. pay more (either by overages or a different service plan that allows
>>> >>for more & costs more), or
>>> >>2. change their behavior to not use so much
>>> >>3. leave
>>> >>
>>> >>I am implementing this now.  The letter went out on Friday to most
>>> >>customers...
>>> >>
>>> >>On 5/2/2011 10:25 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
>>> >>> Not saying what I'm doing is right...I don't have enough spectrum to
>>> >>> continue to deliver the service...haven't figured anything else out
>>> yet.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Regards,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Chuck
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Josh Luthman
>>> >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>     Why not collect more revenue instead of limiting them?  I suppose
>>> >>>     if the customer wants to simply be throttled back instead of pay
>>> >>>     more, that's one thing, but I imagine it makes more sense to
>>> >>>     capitalize on something.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>     Thinking along the lines of the on demand movies and stuff from
>>> >>>     cable companies, for example.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>     Josh Luthman
>>> >>>     Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
>>> >>>     Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
>>> >>>     1100 Wayne St
>>> >>>     Suite 1337
>>> >>>     Troy, OH 45373
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>     On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Chuck Hogg <[email protected]
>>> >>>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>         25GB per month. 128k/s after exceeding their limit.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>         Regards,
>>> >>>
>>> >>>         Chuck
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>         On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Matt <[email protected]
>>> >>>         <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>             > Robert
>>> >>>             > up/down/aggregate
>>> >>>             > 103972 MB   469598 MB   573570 MB
>>> >>>             >
>>> >>>             > The guy downloaded 470 gigs in April.  Paying $53.32
>>> for
>>> >>>             4 megabits down.
>>> >>>             >
>>> >>>             > I got no responses at all about monthly caps on my
>>> >>>             previous email, but if
>>> >>>             > anyone could offer what bandwidth rates and monthly
>>> caps
>>> >>>             you are using I
>>> >>>             > would greatly appreciate it.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>             What is cost per megabit from your upstream?
>>> >>>
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