8 meg package is not offered to residential customers, only to business customers. We still get crazy people who want 8meg in the middle of nowhere, eight hops away from our NOC - so we decided it was best not to advertise it.

When we rollout some more AirMax, we are going to revise this and add 6,12 and 16meg plans for residential in the places where we have AirMax deployed and enough backbone to deliver it.

Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com

On 5/3/2011 1:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
I did read that just yesterday, Matt. I noticed you don't have the 8 meg package on your website =P

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists <li...@manageisp.com <mailto:li...@manageisp.com>> wrote:

    I have a very detailed breakdown of what we did to solve the UBB
    problem on my Wireless Cowboys blog.   You can read it here:

    http://www.wirelesscowboys.com/?p=88

    We went the NetFlow method and correlate customer IP addresses to
    their Freeside accounts to see who gets billed.   Right now, the
    list of violators is pretty small so we do the overage billing
    manually.    We have the option of building a batch transaction
    that gets imported into our billing system on the first of each
    month.    We also built a portal for users to check their own
    bandwidth utilization, and our system sends emails to users when
    they go over and a summary email to our techs with a list of all
    the people that are over.

    Hope that helps.

    Matt Larsen
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    www.wirelesscowboys.com <http://www.wirelesscowboys.com>



    On 5/3/2011 12:00 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:
    What happens if/when you reboot the MT? Don't you lose your
    counts? I would think a better idea would be to use traffic flow
    and an external NetFlow analyzer. We are working on this for
    Wispmon as another way (other than radius accounting) to do usage
    based billing with the product. The downside to this is that the
    "Traffic Flow" stream as they call it, does not output the mac
    field (even though one is available according to the NetFlow
    spec). So if you are using DHCP, it becomes harder to track with
    this method as you would have to constantly poll the routers to
    find out what mac they are attached to. RADIUS is fairly
    cumbersome too as you have to sum all the accounting sessions for
    a given user over a given time period.

    On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Josh Luthman
    <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
    <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:

        Joe - http://www.mikrotik-routeros.com/?p=24


        Josh Luthman
        Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
        Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>

        1100 Wayne St
        Suite 1337
        Troy, OH 45373


        On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Joe Miller
        <joe.mil...@dslbyair.com <mailto:joe.mil...@dslbyair.com>> wrote:

            Can this script be made available for everyone?

            Joe Miller
            DSLbyAir, LLC
            228-831-8881 <tel:228-831-8881>
            www.dslbyair.com <http://www.dslbyair.com>
            ----- Original Message -----
            From: "Stuart Pierce" <spie...@avolve.net
            <mailto:spie...@avolve.net>>
            To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org
            <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
            Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 8:05 AM
            Subject: Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB
            research. You should
            too.


            > I've been saying for a while now that you have to have
            bandwidth caps and
            > costs stated on your website somewhere, even if you are
            not charging for
            > them at this point. You also have to have some method
            of giving feedback
            > to them on their bandwidth consumption.
            >
            > Right now thanks to Josh for the heads up about Andrew
            Cox's script for a
            > Mikrotik box, I've done that and so far so good. It
            will email the client
            > when they reach percentages of usage with whatever you
            want the content of
            > the email to say.
            >
            > What did your letter say ?
            >
            > ---------- Original Message
            ----------------------------------
            > From: Mark Nash <markl...@uwol.net
            <mailto:markl...@uwol.net>>
            > Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org
            <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
            > Date:  Mon, 02 May 2011 10:34:01 -0700
            >
            >>I think it's important for people to (after gaining an
            understanding of
            >>the impact they have on "shared" bandwidth) choose one
            of these...
            >>
            >>1. pay more (either by overages or a different service
            plan that allows
            >>for more & costs more), or
            >>2. change their behavior to not use so much
            >>3. leave
            >>
            >>I am implementing this now.  The letter went out on
            Friday to most
            >>customers...
            >>
            >>On 5/2/2011 10:25 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
            >>> Not saying what I'm doing is right...I don't have
            enough spectrum to
            >>> continue to deliver the service...haven't figured
            anything else out yet.
            >>>
            >>> Regards,
            >>>
            >>> Chuck
            >>>
            >>>
            >>> On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Josh Luthman
            >>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
            <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
            <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
            <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>>
            >>> wrote:
            >>>
            >>>     Why not collect more revenue instead of limiting
            them?  I suppose
            >>>     if the customer wants to simply be throttled back
            instead of pay
            >>>     more, that's one thing, but I imagine it makes
            more sense to
            >>>     capitalize on something.
            >>>
            >>>     Thinking along the lines of the on demand movies
            and stuff from
            >>>     cable companies, for example.
            >>>
            >>>
            >>>     Josh Luthman
            >>>     Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
            <tel:937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>>
            >>>     Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
            <tel:937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>>
            >>>     1100 Wayne St
            >>>     Suite 1337
            >>>     Troy, OH 45373
            >>>
            >>>
            >>>     On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Chuck Hogg
            <ch...@shelbybb.com <mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com>
            >>> <mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com
            <mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com>>> wrote:
            >>>
            >>>         25GB per month. 128k/s after exceeding their
            limit.
            >>>
            >>>         Regards,
            >>>
            >>>         Chuck
            >>>
            >>>
            >>>
            >>>         On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Matt
            <lm7...@gmail.com <mailto:lm7...@gmail.com>
            >>> <mailto:lm7...@gmail.com <mailto:lm7...@gmail.com>>>
            wrote:
            >>>
            >>> > Robert
            >>> > up/down/aggregate
            >>> > 103972 MB   469598 MB   573570 MB
            >>> >
            >>> > The guy downloaded 470 gigs in April.  Paying
            $53.32 for
            >>>             4 megabits down.
            >>> >
            >>> > I got no responses at all about monthly caps on my
            >>>             previous email, but if
            >>> > anyone could offer what bandwidth rates and monthly
            caps
            >>>             you are using I
            >>> > would greatly appreciate it.
            >>>
            >>>             What is cost per megabit from your upstream?
            >>>
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