Your first point is why I've been beating the dead horse of getting people to avoid the telcos wherever possible.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 7/16/2011 9:42 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: > I am going to address your points backwards:- > > --------You wrote ------- > And lastly, about the FCC, the last administration's appointees were > advocates for free markets and for competition and deregulation. Not > particularly effective ones, but at least they were not our enemy. The > current administration's people at the FCC are IN NO WAY our friend, for > any way, manner, or purpose, and everything they want is bad for us and > the country. STop talking political party talking points, and get some > reality. > --------------------------------- > > We have been wireline ISP's first, since 2000, if you really believe > what you wrote (above) then you are truly mis-informed... > The simple facts are ... it is Regulation (1996 Telecom Act) that > allowed us (ISP's) to be able to go into the business of providing > internet access and other communication services ..... and it is THE > DEREGULATION over the past 5 years, that has been KILLING the ISP's off. > You forget, that if you don't have the ability to connect to other > networks in a fair and equitable manner, you are not going to be able to > continue in this business. > Get a grip of reality and the full picture.. you are playing with a DUAL > EDGE sword here... > > ---------------You wrote----------------- > > You seem to think that the answer is to find the right pol to influence and > the right committee members to lobby and the right allies to obstruct X or > advance Y, but those are expediency, not principle. They should be TACTICS > to a principled purpose, one that will attract others, on the basis of its > soundness and validity. > > ------------------------------------------------ > Not sure where you are coming up with this from ...however each and > every one has his own right to interpret the events . > > ------------You wrote ----------------------------- > > Additionally, I said absolutely NOTHING partisan. Not even ideological. > It's simple straightforward business principles. Principle Numero Uno is > "have the freedom to be in business", and there is nothing convoluted or > difficult about that. > > ---------------------------------------------------- > hehe.. when you start off a paragraph with "this administration" or do > a follow up with "the previous administration".. that is as partisan as > one can get.... > > I agree with your 'Principle Numero Uno', but you are harking at the > wrong organization.. it is not in WISPA's charter or mission, maybe > should be a member of the SBA association, or FISPA or COMPTEL ... but > then again you will have to get your head straight about how the US Gov. > has operated for the last 200 years.... > > WISPA's mission has been to address issues related to Wireless, (not > business, not telephone service, not hosted services, etc etc)... > While I understand your frustration with the Gov., and do agree with > some of your points, but what you keep putting forward on the WISPA > forums is more like 'Don Quixote Tilting at the windmills" > > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet& Telecom > > > On 7/16/2011 12:59 AM, MDK wrote: >> A "plan of action"? If I said "this is what WISPA should do" and laid it >> out in detail, all you'd do is say "who are you? Why should we hacve to do >> what you say?" >> >> Frankly, I have no idea why you're having difficulty. You see, when you >> have proper business principles as your guiding mechanism, what you should >> do is crystal clear. Nobody needs to write out a plan of action, it >> becomes self evident - you always advocate FOR the proper and best thing. >> And, after being consistent, year after year, and when stuff like this comes >> up, which becomes so blatantly obviously a result of failure to follow true >> principle, again, nothing is obscure or difficult. >> >> Additionally, I said absolutely NOTHING partisan. Not even ideological. >> It's simple straightforward business principles. Principle Numero Uno is >> "have the freedom to be in business", and there is nothing convoluted or >> difficult about that. >> >> You seem to be interested in mere expediency. That's what's gotten us to >> this crisis point, the idea of managing the favoritism, the cronyism, etc, >> to favor you, or at least not hurt you too much. That's what's BEEN going >> on. Had we (WISPA) been looking for and actively seeking allies who would >> with us, say with many voices, but one message - "hands off, and be a >> steward of what's entrusted to you", I think the landscape would look >> different. The word "steward" is loaded. It means one entrusted to manage >> things for the benefit OF THE OWNER, that's us. The FCC and Congress are >> managing for the benefit of the federal treasury and the donations to >> campaigns - which is the polar opposite of managed for the good of the >> people. >> >> In the previous post, I wrote an analogy, one where the city effectively >> puts every service and business up for licensure at auction. It takes no >> imagination at all to see that the city coffers and the winning bidder are >> the beneficiaries and the people are the losers. Spectrum is a public or >> national resource held in trust by the federal government. Auctions to the >> highest bidder do not benefit anyone but the monopoly holder and the >> treasury, by creating monopolies or very limited competition. Again, we as >> consumers and businessmen are the losers. Imagine if there were enough >> spectrum delegated so that if us WISP's wanted to be mobile broadband >> providers we could, as well as cellular, or even video / audio broadcasters. >> Instead, such services have been delegated a minute slice of available >> spectrum, keeping up the price of the auctions - and the number of >> competitors down. >> >> Why? It is in the interest of politicians to separate us from our money. >> But their REAL job is to defend us keeping it. There are NOW myriad >> political allies to spread this message, to change the discussion from "whom >> to screw out of lots of money" to "what is the best policy for the people >> and keep competition alive?" And, that's the message that is NOT being >> advocated by WISPA, and it should be. >> >> You seem to think that the answer is to find the right pol to influence and >> the right committee members to lobby and the right allies to obstruct X or >> advance Y, but those are expediency, not principle. They should be TACTICS >> to a principled purpose, one that will attract others, on the basis of its >> soundness and validity. >> >> And lastly, about the FCC, the last administration's appointees were >> advocates for free markets and for competition and deregulation. Not >> particularly effective ones, but at least they were not our enemy. The >> current administration's people at the FCC are IN NO WAY our friend, for any >> way, manner, or purpose, and everything they want is bad for us and the >> country. STop talking political party talking points, and get some reality. >> >> >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy >> 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Faisal Imtiaz"<[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 8:01 PM >> To: "WISPA General List"<[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire >> >>> Errr....... and your point is ? >>> >>> Ok, I am a nobody... I have seen / read your emails, not once can I say >>> I have been able to pick out a proposed specific, action or a plan of >>> action from you .... >>> >>> My friend you and I can agree or dis-agree on concepts all day long... >>> but the point still remains ... I for myself still am not able to >>> ascertain what exactly is it that you have been proposing ? ( I >>> understand the anger at all of the powers to be.... part...and I beg to >>> differ when you start blaming ..'this administration'..... I personally >>> have been watching and following the FCC stuff, on sliding slopes, for >>> the last 12 years..that according to my calculations has been multiple >>> administrations.....) >>> >>> You clear your head, and try to articulate your position in a >>> non-partisan manner, which can be understood by the general public, and >>> put forward a reasonably understandable plan of action .... I guarantee >>> you, you will have many here who would be willing to listen and follow >>> your lead... >>> >>> But if you continue expressing yourself in the convoluted manner, as in >>> your email below....then there is a very high probability that these >>> will continue to be chalked off as "tirades" and "rants". >>> >>> >>> :) >>> >>> Faisal Imtiaz >>> Snappy Internet& Telecom >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > WISPA Wants You! 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