Well...again you have to go further back in history...before telecom regulation ..it was a Ma Bell monopoly ......and without regulation...there is a very good chance that it will again become a Ma Bell monopoly or maybe a duopoly...
Let's not forget that... Faisal On Jul 16, 2011, at 9:03 PM, RickG <[email protected]> wrote: > "it is Regulation (1996 Telecom Act) that > allowed us (ISP's) to be able to go into the business of providing > internet access and other communication services" > > With all due respect, it's exactly the mindset that government "allows" us to > be in business that IS the problem. Telecom Act or no, regulation or no, > there should be no question that we are allowed to make a living the way we > want to regardless. > > On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Faisal Imtiaz <[email protected]> wrote: > I am going to address your points backwards:- > > --------You wrote ------- > And lastly, about the FCC, the last administration's appointees were > advocates for free markets and for competition and deregulation. Not > particularly effective ones, but at least they were not our enemy. The > current administration's people at the FCC are IN NO WAY our friend, for > any way, manner, or purpose, and everything they want is bad for us and > the country. STop talking political party talking points, and get some > reality. > --------------------------------- > > We have been wireline ISP's first, since 2000, if you really believe > what you wrote (above) then you are truly mis-informed... > The simple facts are ... it is Regulation (1996 Telecom Act) that > allowed us (ISP's) to be able to go into the business of providing > internet access and other communication services ..... and it is THE > DEREGULATION over the past 5 years, that has been KILLING the ISP's off. > You forget, that if you don't have the ability to connect to other > networks in a fair and equitable manner, you are not going to be able to > continue in this business. > Get a grip of reality and the full picture.. you are playing with a DUAL > EDGE sword here... > > ---------------You wrote----------------- > > You seem to think that the answer is to find the right pol to influence and > the right committee members to lobby and the right allies to obstruct X or > advance Y, but those are expediency, not principle. They should be TACTICS > to a principled purpose, one that will attract others, on the basis of its > soundness and validity. > > ------------------------------------------------ > Not sure where you are coming up with this from ...however each and > every one has his own right to interpret the events . > > ------------You wrote ----------------------------- > > Additionally, I said absolutely NOTHING partisan. Not even ideological. > It's simple straightforward business principles. Principle Numero Uno is > "have the freedom to be in business", and there is nothing convoluted or > difficult about that. > > ---------------------------------------------------- > hehe.. when you start off a paragraph with "this administration" or do > a follow up with "the previous administration".. that is as partisan as > one can get.... > > I agree with your 'Principle Numero Uno', but you are harking at the > wrong organization.. it is not in WISPA's charter or mission, maybe > should be a member of the SBA association, or FISPA or COMPTEL ... but > then again you will have to get your head straight about how the US Gov. > has operated for the last 200 years.... > > WISPA's mission has been to address issues related to Wireless, (not > business, not telephone service, not hosted services, etc etc)... > While I understand your frustration with the Gov., and do agree with > some of your points, but what you keep putting forward on the WISPA > forums is more like 'Don Quixote Tilting at the windmills" > > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet& Telecom > > > On 7/16/2011 12:59 AM, MDK wrote: > > A "plan of action"? If I said "this is what WISPA should do" and laid it > > out in detail, all you'd do is say "who are you? Why should we hacve to do > > what you say?" > > > > Frankly, I have no idea why you're having difficulty. You see, when you > > have proper business principles as your guiding mechanism, what you should > > do is crystal clear. Nobody needs to write out a plan of action, it > > becomes self evident - you always advocate FOR the proper and best thing. > > And, after being consistent, year after year, and when stuff like this comes > > up, which becomes so blatantly obviously a result of failure to follow true > > principle, again, nothing is obscure or difficult. > > > > Additionally, I said absolutely NOTHING partisan. Not even ideological. > > It's simple straightforward business principles. Principle Numero Uno is > > "have the freedom to be in business", and there is nothing convoluted or > > difficult about that. > > > > You seem to be interested in mere expediency. That's what's gotten us to > > this crisis point, the idea of managing the favoritism, the cronyism, etc, > > to favor you, or at least not hurt you too much. That's what's BEEN going > > on. Had we (WISPA) been looking for and actively seeking allies who would > > with us, say with many voices, but one message - "hands off, and be a > > steward of what's entrusted to you", I think the landscape would look > > different. The word "steward" is loaded. It means one entrusted to manage > > things for the benefit OF THE OWNER, that's us. The FCC and Congress are > > managing for the benefit of the federal treasury and the donations to > > campaigns - which is the polar opposite of managed for the good of the > > people. > > > > In the previous post, I wrote an analogy, one where the city effectively > > puts every service and business up for licensure at auction. It takes no > > imagination at all to see that the city coffers and the winning bidder are > > the beneficiaries and the people are the losers. Spectrum is a public or > > national resource held in trust by the federal government. Auctions to the > > highest bidder do not benefit anyone but the monopoly holder and the > > treasury, by creating monopolies or very limited competition. Again, we as > > consumers and businessmen are the losers. Imagine if there were enough > > spectrum delegated so that if us WISP's wanted to be mobile broadband > > providers we could, as well as cellular, or even video / audio broadcasters. > > Instead, such services have been delegated a minute slice of available > > spectrum, keeping up the price of the auctions - and the number of > > competitors down. > > > > Why? It is in the interest of politicians to separate us from our money. > > But their REAL job is to defend us keeping it. There are NOW myriad > > political allies to spread this message, to change the discussion from "whom > > to screw out of lots of money" to "what is the best policy for the people > > and keep competition alive?" And, that's the message that is NOT being > > advocated by WISPA, and it should be. > > > > You seem to think that the answer is to find the right pol to influence and > > the right committee members to lobby and the right allies to obstruct X or > > advance Y, but those are expediency, not principle. They should be TACTICS > > to a principled purpose, one that will attract others, on the basis of its > > soundness and validity. > > > > And lastly, about the FCC, the last administration's appointees were > > advocates for free markets and for competition and deregulation. Not > > particularly effective ones, but at least they were not our enemy. The > > current administration's people at the FCC are IN NO WAY our friend, for any > > way, manner, or purpose, and everything they want is bad for us and the > > country. STop talking political party talking points, and get some reality. > > > > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy > > 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > From: "Faisal Imtiaz"<[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 8:01 PM > > To: "WISPA General List"<[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire > > > >> Errr....... and your point is ? > >> > >> Ok, I am a nobody... I have seen / read your emails, not once can I say > >> I have been able to pick out a proposed specific, action or a plan of > >> action from you .... > >> > >> My friend you and I can agree or dis-agree on concepts all day long... > >> but the point still remains ... I for myself still am not able to > >> ascertain what exactly is it that you have been proposing ? ( I > >> understand the anger at all of the powers to be.... part...and I beg to > >> differ when you start blaming ..'this administration'..... I personally > >> have been watching and following the FCC stuff, on sliding slopes, for > >> the last 12 years..that according to my calculations has been multiple > >> administrations.....) > >> > >> You clear your head, and try to articulate your position in a > >> non-partisan manner, which can be understood by the general public, and > >> put forward a reasonably understandable plan of action .... I guarantee > >> you, you will have many here who would be willing to listen and follow > >> your lead... > >> > >> But if you continue expressing yourself in the convoluted manner, as in > >> your email below....then there is a very high probability that these > >> will continue to be chalked off as "tirades" and "rants". > >> > >> > >> :) > >> > >> Faisal Imtiaz > >> Snappy Internet& Telecom > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > WISPA Wants You! 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