I think Matt's advantage is the licensed freq. There is something to be said
for putting it up and forgetting it. With unlicensed BH you are always going
to be fighting the interference monster. I guess it depends on your budget
and time.

Cameron

On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 1:22 AM, Josh Luthman
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>wrote:

> But a Ubiuiti radio could do that for 500.  A ptp230 or 250 could get
> close.  Mikrotik could do that for probably 500.
>
> Double up on hardware and you're still way under budget.
> On Jul 28, 2011 1:25 AM, "Matt Larsen - Lists" <li...@manageisp.com>
> wrote:
> > I have had one of the Ligowave (SAF) 24ghz 100meg radios in service for
> > almost two years on a three mile link. It has been an outstanding
> > piece of equipment in the time that we have had it. A few months ago,
> > after a discussion on list, we figured out that we did not have the
> > cross-polarization set up correctly, so we fixed it and saw our
> > throughput go from 60meg to 100meg full duplex along with another 15db
> > of fade margin. We have had some occasional rain fade, but no outages
> > lasted more than five minutes. I do wish that there was an option for a
> > bigger dish, as being able to go 6-8 miles would be very handy.
> >
> > The link that we have it on used to be fed by a 100meg fiber connection
> > that cost $500/month. We spent $8000 on the Ligo radio, so it paid for
> > itself in 16 months. I think that is pretty useful!
> >
> > Matt Larsen
> > vistabeam.com
> >
> > On 7/27/2011 8:20 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> >> I was just kind of thinking what use there would be for a 100 mbps
> >> radio in 24 Ghz. Limitation of just a couple of miles like 60 Ghz,
> >> too. Unless the two other ethernet ports can be used to aggregate
> >> more bandwidth?
> >>
> >> Josh Luthman
> >> Office: 937-552-2340
> >> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >> 1100 Wayne St
> >> Suite 1337
> >> Troy, OH 45373
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Bob Moldashel <lakel...@gbcx.net
> >> <mailto:lakel...@gbcx.net>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Maybe it is. I am only going by word of mouth on that. That's
> >> why I said "I am told.." Don't want to put my foot in my mouth...
> >>
> >> :-)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 7/27/2011 10:11 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
> >>>
> >>> That's weird, FCC regulations specify cross Pol... I think this
> >>> radio is for Licensed 24 ?
> >>>
> >>> Gino A. Villarini
> >>>
> >>> g...@aeronetpr.com <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>
> >>>
> >>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> >>>
> >>> 787.273.4143 <tel:787.273.4143>
>
> >>>
> >>> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org
> >>> <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>
> >>> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Bob Moldashel
> >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:25 PM
> >>> *To:* wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
>
> >>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?
> >>>
> >>> Two more things...
> >>>
> >>> Radio has built in spectrum analyzer that works :-)
> >>>
> >>> And.... I am told link is plane polarity so only uses one
> >>> polarity plane for data...Not two.
> >>>
> >>> -B-
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 7/27/2011 10:03 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> >>>
> >>> What kind of dishes can you use in 24ghz? What ranges can you do
> >>> with them?
> >>>
> >>> On Jul 27, 2011 9:56 PM, "Gino Villarini" <g...@aeronetpr.com
> >>> <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>> wrote:
> >>> > Nice! Price?
> >>> >
> >>> > Gino A. Villarini
> >>> > g...@aeronetpr.com <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>
> >>> > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> >>> > 787.273.4143 <tel:787.273.4143>
>
> >>> >
> >>> > -----Original Message-----
> >>> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
> >>> <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>
> >>> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
> >>> <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
> >>> > Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:05 PM
> >>> > To: WISPA General List
> >>> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?
> >>> >
> >>> > No. Its unlicensed 24 Ghz. Spec sheet attached
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > -B-
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On 7/27/2011 9:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
> >>> >> IIRC the Exalt unit is for Licensed Fiber Tower Freqs? No?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Gino A. Villarini
> >>> >> g...@aeronetpr.com <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>
> >>> >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> >>> >> 787.273.4143 <tel:787.273.4143>
>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>> >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
> >>> <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>
> >>> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
> >>> <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>]
> >>> >> On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
> >>> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:50 PM
> >>> >> To: wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
>
> >>> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> The Snaplink only does about 22 Mbps.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Exalt just came out with a 24 Ghz. Full Duplex TDD radio that
> >>> will do
> >>> >> 100 Mbps and is capable of 3 non-overlapping channels. The
> >>> price is the same or cheaper.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I believe its 2 year warranty also.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> -B-
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On 7/27/2011 7:23 PM, Adam Greene wrote:
> >>> >>> Has anyone tried the SnapLink Blast?
> >>> >>>
> >>> http://www.wisptech.com/index.php/Microwave_Backhaul_Comparison_Chart
> >>> >>> shows 24GHz, 160M half-duplex, $6k ... if it really works,
> >>> that's
> >>> >>> pretty good, in my book
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> On 7/26/2011 10:47 AM, Adam Greene wrote:
> >>> >>>> This question has probably been asked on this list before
> >>> ... if
> >>> >>>> needed, just tell me to check the archives ...
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> Becoming increasingly frustrated with chasing apparent
> >>> interference
> >>> >>>> issues on our Alvarion& Mikrotik 2.4GHz and 5.4 - 5.8GHz
> >>> point to point
> >>> >>>> links, I am wondering if anyone has a suggestion for a
> >>> >>>> non-2.4GHz/5.8GHz solution that can do ~50Mbps full duplex
> >>> or above
> >>> >>>> (or even a little less). For example, maybe something on the
> >>> 24GHz
> >>> >>>> frequency? Or even licensed, if the license is inexpensive
> >>> enough
> >>> >>>> and easy to obtain. Kind of shying away from 3.65GHz because
> >>> of the
> >>> >>>> cumbersome process of having to obtain waivers from 3 earth
> >>> stations each time.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> Thanks,
> >>> >>>> Adam
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