Brian,

No worries. I don't work for CN at all. I merely peek in through the windows 
and see what's happening here and there across our country. I see exactly what 
you are talking about: Great with ArcView, not so much with propagation 
modeling software. It's like when the public safety departments try to get the 
radio guys to fix the computers :)

-drew

On Aug 4, 2011, at 3:47 PM, Brian Webster wrote:

> Drew,
>                 That statement was meant to state that many states (non 
> connected nation contracts mostly) have the bulk of their experience with GIS 
> and data companies, not people who have worked in the broadband industry. 
> When it comes to reviewing data and information collected by some GIS 
> companies, they typically do not have a good understanding of the value of 
> various data when looking at the broadband picture in a state. This is not to 
> say that they lack the skills to map what they have been given and compile it 
> in to the necessary formats for the NTIA, but what they do lack is the 
> ability to think outside the box, to work with carriers in a way to minimize 
> the carriers level of work they need to do to supply good data to the mapping 
> effort. I have seen many contractors that just can’t deal with anything 
> outside their form and checkbox system (again, this are not connected nation 
> contracted states).
>  
> If Connected Nation takes my comments personally please let me state that 
> this is not an attack on any of their work. These are my observations of 
> working with other states in conjunction with WISP’s outside the states that 
> have a contract with Connected Nation. My statement was based on direct 
> interaction with the state contracts and the WISP’s. In one case it took a 
> direct intervention from the NTIA to get it worked out with said state.
>  
> Thank You,
> Brian Webster
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>  
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Drew Lentz
> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 1:06 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Providing data to NTIA for Broadband mapping?
>  
> I disagree with this:
> Most of these mapping contractors are people who do not have any broadband 
> experience.
>  
> Depending on the group that gets assigned the funding for the mapping 
> projects (and that is done per state), some of these guys are highly 
> proficient in doing the data collection. They have decades of experience and 
> most definitely know what they are doing. 
>  
> The only reason I mention this is because part of their toolset does include 
> pretty sophisticated software, that does in fact have a higher price tag than 
> RM. I love RM, always have, and have used it for years. But crunching 
> together WiMax, LTE, Wi-Fi, etc into it simultaneously can be kind of a 
> hassle; and exporting it and combining it with data from thousands of 
> locations, just as difficult.
>  
> One process that I am familiar with when it comes to this (at least here in 
> TX and what one of the WISPs I built went through) went like this:
>  
> 1. Contacted by the mapping agency
> 2. The mapping agency asked for coverage maps, if they were available.
> 3. Info on tx and rx gear was obtained for signal modeling.
> 4. test points were assigned.
> 5. Test points were used to gather real-world signal levels.
> 6. Maps were created based on tx and rx gear and real-world signal levels.
> 7. each one of those newly found maps were sent upstream to state HQ where 
> they were combined with all the other state maps to create a pretty thorough 
> database / map
>  
> -d
>  
> On Aug 4, 2011, at 9:19 AM, Brian Webster wrote:
> 
> 
> Most of these mapping contractors are people who do not have any broadband 
> experience.
>  
> 
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