Did you force modulations at all or are you letting it auto negotiate?

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On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Scott Reed <[email protected]> wrote:
> This link is over 5 years old.  XR5 cards will connect and pass a
> significant amount of data at -80 if the CCQ stays up.
> I am trying to figure out why a 5 year old link suddenly quits and new
> hardware doesn't fix it.
>
>
> On 1/29/2012 3:04 PM, Bryan Fields wrote:
>
> On 1/28/2012 17:05, Scott Reed wrote:
>
> RB433AH with XR5 at each end.
> Signals running around -69/-71.  CCQ is the goofy one.  Most of the time
> one direction is in the 50% range, but varies quite a bit.  The other
> direction ranges from 16% to 100%.  Generally if I see it getting close
> to 100% I know the link is going to drop.  It comes right back up,
> usually at about 50%.
> I have tried 20MHz channels, 10MHz channels, 5MHz channels with about
> the same results from all.
> I have tried 5.2-5.3 frequencies and 5.7-5.8 frequencies.  The higher
> frequencies work better, but still not well.
>
> I'm not that familiar with the ubiquiti products, but from the data sheet
> the radio will put out 23 dBm and requires a -74dBm signal to work (the data
> sheet does not say what channel size this measurement is from, I'll assume a
> 20 MHz channel).
>
> What strikes me is your normal RSL is is only 3dB more than the min RSL
> needed to link at 54 mbit/s.  This is well within the normal variance of a
> radio path (+-3dB), and could be causing the radios to switch back and forth
> between data rates (only after taking some errors).   It could be
> interference, but even 3dB of on channel interference is enough to raise the
> noise floor and lower your S/N radio (keep in mind in a ofdm radio the RSL
> numbers given assume a perfect noise free system, for ever dB of noise you
> have add a dB to your RSL).
>
> If you want a 54mbit OTA rate you need a much better signal for it to be
> reliable.  If you need no less than a -74dBm signal, ensure you have a
> -60dBm or better signal (rule of thumb) during steady state operation.  This
> will give you some head room for changes in the atmosphere (K value) and
> other issues that pop up from time to time.  If you suspect interference,
> try to figure out if it's local or remote and where it's at.  If you can use
> a HP dish to knock down off path noise, do it.  When I was deploying
> backhaul radios in unlicensed space, I made HP dish's standard on all my
> links.
>
> Unfortunately this is not cheap to do things properly, but it will let you
> sleep easy at night.
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