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On 1/29/2012 9:18 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> Did you force modulations at all or are you letting it auto negotiate?
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> On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Scott Reed<sr...@nwwnet.net>  wrote:
>> This link is over 5 years old.  XR5 cards will connect and pass a
>> significant amount of data at -80 if the CCQ stays up.
>> I am trying to figure out why a 5 year old link suddenly quits and new
>> hardware doesn't fix it.
>>
>>
>> On 1/29/2012 3:04 PM, Bryan Fields wrote:
>>
>> On 1/28/2012 17:05, Scott Reed wrote:
>>
>> RB433AH with XR5 at each end.
>> Signals running around -69/-71.  CCQ is the goofy one.  Most of the time
>> one direction is in the 50% range, but varies quite a bit.  The other
>> direction ranges from 16% to 100%.  Generally if I see it getting close
>> to 100% I know the link is going to drop.  It comes right back up,
>> usually at about 50%.
>> I have tried 20MHz channels, 10MHz channels, 5MHz channels with about
>> the same results from all.
>> I have tried 5.2-5.3 frequencies and 5.7-5.8 frequencies.  The higher
>> frequencies work better, but still not well.
>>
>> I'm not that familiar with the ubiquiti products, but from the data sheet
>> the radio will put out 23 dBm and requires a -74dBm signal to work (the data
>> sheet does not say what channel size this measurement is from, I'll assume a
>> 20 MHz channel).
>>
>> What strikes me is your normal RSL is is only 3dB more than the min RSL
>> needed to link at 54 mbit/s.  This is well within the normal variance of a
>> radio path (+-3dB), and could be causing the radios to switch back and forth
>> between data rates (only after taking some errors).   It could be
>> interference, but even 3dB of on channel interference is enough to raise the
>> noise floor and lower your S/N radio (keep in mind in a ofdm radio the RSL
>> numbers given assume a perfect noise free system, for ever dB of noise you
>> have add a dB to your RSL).
>>
>> If you want a 54mbit OTA rate you need a much better signal for it to be
>> reliable.  If you need no less than a -74dBm signal, ensure you have a
>> -60dBm or better signal (rule of thumb) during steady state operation.  This
>> will give you some head room for changes in the atmosphere (K value) and
>> other issues that pop up from time to time.  If you suspect interference,
>> try to figure out if it's local or remote and where it's at.  If you can use
>> a HP dish to knock down off path noise, do it.  When I was deploying
>> backhaul radios in unlicensed space, I made HP dish's standard on all my
>> links.
>>
>> Unfortunately this is not cheap to do things properly, but it will let you
>> sleep easy at night.
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