My point was if Code actually requires it, which in this case it may
not,
don't replace it because it's an inconvenience. You are potentially
liable if something were to happen if you are the one who went against
code. Instead find a workaround. If code doesn't require it, get an
inspector to sign off.
Justin
-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Hoppes <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 11:27:40 -0400
To: WISPA General List <[email protected]>
Cc: Justin Wilson <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages
>That's what breakers are for - shorts.
>GFCIs are for quick blows for things like.... dropping something in
>water. I still don't understand why it would be required in a tower
>building.
>
>On 3/16/12 11:11 AM, Justin Wilson wrote:
>> But what happens if something shorts and it's traced down to the fact
>> you removed the GFCI. I would not want to bet my business on it. I would
>> have an outlet hardwired into a nema box. That should satisfy code, but
>> I would check.
>>
>> Justin
>>
>> From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181)" <[email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>>
>> Reply-To: WISPA General List <[email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>>
>> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 08:00:39 -0700
>> To: WISPA General List <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages
>>
>> Yeah. Drop the GFCI.
>> If an inspector whines about it get his home phone and tell him
>> he'll have to meet you at the site every time it goes down because
>> the GFCI technology is so worthless. It won't take but 2 trips and
>> he'll beg you to take them out!
>> And if you think it's bad now. Just wait till you have to put in arc
>> fault breakers everywhere. The whole house has to have them
>> nowadays. Can't even run a shop vac in my house if it's in one of
>> the rooms with an arc fault. Half my skill saws won't work etc.
>> Good ideas, both. Rotten overly sensitive implementation.
>> The market for used arc faults will be huge sooner than later. Every
>> homeowner with a screw driver will pull them all out and put in
>> normal breakers :-).
>> The NEC is getting to be worse than the dept. of ecology!
>> marlon
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Troy Settle <mailto:[email protected]>
>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Friday, March 16, 2012 6:04 AM
>> *Subject:* [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages
>>
>> Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our
>> towers. One of them tripped last night, causing me to have to
>> put on some 80 miles just to push a button (yes, it could have
>> been much worse).
>>
>> Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from
>> happening without violating code?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --
>>
>> Troy Settle, Network Administrator
>>
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