"If you’re lucky, a bulge is as good as a schematic." Maybe. But I wouldn't use that line until at least the third date ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: Jonathan Schmidt To: WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 4:56 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
A trusted supplier also has suppliers who have suppliers. We had over a dozen Princeton monitors that all quit within 6 months of each other after 4 years. As they piled up, one of our engineer-programmers had an epiphany that it might be one common problem…looking at the stack of monitors 6’ high. It was caps, of course. Opening them up, you could see the bulge in the top of one or two caps. There were 4 or 5 of the same kind and one or the other were blown in the first 3. He got to the point where he could fix a monitor in 8 minutes…and we got them all back. If you’re lucky, a bulge is as good as a schematic. This time it wasn’t the supplier. They were all running a volt or two above the rating. It was the designer. . . . j o n a t h a n From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve Nedolast Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 5:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router As well as samsung recently. Blair Davis <[email protected]> wrote: BTW, as a electronics teck, who still repairs DLP and Rear Projection TV's as a hobby, MikroTik ain't the only people who got bit by that capacitor issue... You can add Thompson and Mitsubishi to the list as well. Two of the big boys in electronics. Like UBNT with the ToughCable, sometimes your trusted supplier ****s you. Live and learn. -- On 1/9/2013 8:02 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: Ok. Now that I'm on a larger device than my phone let me elaborate. Yes. Beta units are the same as what are shipping to distributors. Why would they be any different? That wouldn't make any sense and would go against every previous beta Ubiquiti has ever done. Being in Latvia RMAs with MT are a pain in the rear and take months to get completed - usually involving sending it direct yourself or back to your distributor who batches them back to Latvia. With Ubiquiti, being US based, you just send the device back to SJ and you get a new one. Support? You must have a secret number for MT support. The only way I know to get support on MT is to go to the MT forums where you'll get beat up... And heaven forbid you find a bug.....you'll get tarred and feathered. And certainly no discussion of competitors products on their forums because that would be a bad thing. I think it speaks worlds that MT uses sometimes come over to the Ubiquiti forum to get help ---- and people help them! Ubiquiti has phone support, a very active FRIENDLY forum. When was the last time you saw a MT firmware developer on the forum answering questions? And finally.....the Ubiquiti router doesn't blow caps after being in service for a year. ..... Oh it wait.... That issue was never acknowledged was it? Sent from my iPad On Jan 8, 2013, at 22:35, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> wrote: I'm not bitter, I just don't see their advantage. You can't honestly expect support to exceed that of Mikrotik. Features are better in Mikrotik. Price doesn't have a huge gap between them. Not exactly sure how you've had them running for months when they haven't even started shipping. Unless you got a beta unit or something, which is probably not the same product that you'd buy from a distributor. Simple question: What does the Ubiquiti router have over my Mikrotik? Now what's the answer... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Matt Hoppes <[email protected]> wrote: Wow, josh. Why are you so bitter towards these things? Many of us have had them in heavy production without issue for months. Sent from my iPad On Jan 8, 2013, at 21:05, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> wrote: Build a Win ME machine. Put it on some batteries in the corner. Get your 9 mo uptime. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 8, 2013 8:56 PM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> wrote: Do you have anything to base that on? I have both MT and UBNT devices that have been up without missing a beat since they last had firmware upgraded 9+ months ago. Now I know UBNT will have big shoes to fill if they plan on unseating Mikrotik, but give them a couple years and I think they'll be alright. I likely won't use the first generation in production. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 4:56:10 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router I have no reason to buy them at all. They're going to be less reliable than Mikrotik (which is really really bad) and not be as good software wise. Where does this device fit? Their ad suggests it is to replace a Cisco. Ya right. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Mike Hammett < [email protected] > wrote: That's an awfully bold statement. How come? ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christian Palecek" < [email protected] > To: "WISPA General List" < [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 4:30:22 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router I wouldn't touch one with a ten foot pole. Sent from my Verizon Wireless smartphone Jon Auer < [email protected] > wrote: >Streakwave is supposedly shipping orders placed back when it was announced. >Mine hasn't arrived yet :-( >On Jan 8, 2013 12:57 PM, "Steve Barnes" < [email protected] > wrote: > >> That’s the new UBNT Edge Router line. I was not aware that they have >> actually shipped to general public yet. **** >> >> ** ** >> >> UBNT is trying to get into the Router market as well. 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