A bulge is better.

Tom Sharples <[email protected]> wrote:

>"If you’re lucky, a bulge is as good as a schematic."
>
>Maybe. But I wouldn't use that line until at least the third date ;-)
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Jonathan Schmidt 
>  To: WISPA General List 
>  Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 4:56 PM
>  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
>
>
>A trusted supplier also has suppliers who have suppliers.  We had over
>a dozen Princeton monitors that all quit within 6 months of each other
>after 4 years.  As they piled up, one of our engineer-programmers had
>an epiphany that it might be one common problem…looking at the stack of
>monitors 6’ high.  It was caps, of course.  
>
>   
>
>Opening them up, you could see the bulge in the top of one or two caps.
>There were 4 or 5 of the same kind and one or the other were blown in
>the first 3.  He got to the point where he could fix a monitor in 8
>minutes…and we got them all back.  If you’re lucky, a bulge is as good
>as a schematic.
>
>   
>
>This time it wasn’t the supplier.  They were all running a volt or two
>above the rating.  It was the designer.
>
>   
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>  . . . j o n a t h a n
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>From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>Behalf Of Steve Nedolast
>  Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 5:04 PM
>  To: WISPA General List
>  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
>
>   
>
>  As well as samsung recently.
>
>  Blair Davis <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>BTW, as a electronics teck, who still repairs DLP and Rear Projection
>TV's as a hobby, MikroTik ain't the only people who got bit by that
>capacitor issue...
>
>You can add Thompson and Mitsubishi to the list as well.  Two of the
>big boys in electronics.
>
>Like UBNT with the ToughCable, sometimes your trusted supplier ****s
>you.
>
>  Live and learn.
>
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>  On 1/9/2013 8:02 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>
>   Ok. Now that I'm on a larger device than my phone let me elaborate. 
>
>     
>
>Yes. Beta units are the same as what are shipping to distributors. Why
>would they be any different?  That wouldn't make any sense and would go
>against every previous beta Ubiquiti has ever done. 
>
>     
>
>Being in Latvia RMAs with MT are a pain in the rear and take months to
>get completed - usually involving sending it direct yourself or back to
>your distributor who batches them back to Latvia.  With Ubiquiti, being
>US based, you just send the device back to SJ and you get a new one. 
>
>     
>
>Support?  You must have a secret number for MT support. The only way I
>know to get support on MT is to go to the MT forums where you'll get
>beat up... And heaven forbid you find a bug.....you'll get tarred and
>feathered. And certainly no discussion of competitors products on their
>forums because that would be a bad thing.   I think it speaks worlds
>that MT uses sometimes come over to the Ubiquiti forum to get help ----
>and people help them!
>
>     
>
>Ubiquiti has phone support, a very active FRIENDLY forum. When was the
>last time you saw a MT firmware developer on the forum answering
>questions?
>
>     
>
>And finally.....the Ubiquiti router doesn't blow caps after being in
>service for a year. ..... Oh it wait....  That issue was never
>acknowledged was it?
>
>    Sent from my iPad
>
>
>On Jan 8, 2013, at 22:35, Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>I'm not bitter, I just don't see their advantage.  You can't honestly
>expect support to exceed that of Mikrotik.  Features are better in
>Mikrotik.  Price doesn't have a huge gap between them. 
>
>       
>
>Not exactly sure how you've had them running for months when they
>haven't even started shipping.  Unless you got a beta unit or
>something, which is probably not the same product that you'd buy from a
>distributor.
>
>
>Simple question:  What does the Ubiquiti router have over my Mikrotik? 
>Now what's the answer...
>
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>      Josh Luthman
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>      Direct: 937-552-2343
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>On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Matt Hoppes
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>Wow, josh. Why are you so bitter towards these things?  Many of us have
>had them in heavy production without issue for months. 
>
>      Sent from my iPad
>
>
>On Jan 8, 2013, at 21:05, Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>Build a Win ME machine.  Put it on some batteries in the corner.  Get
>your 9 mo uptime.
>
>        Josh Luthman
>        Office: 937-552-2340
>        Direct: 937-552-2343
>        1100 Wayne St Suite 1337
>        Troy, OH 45373
>
>On Jan 8, 2013 8:56 PM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>        Do you have anything to base that on?
>
>I have both MT and UBNT devices that have been up without missing a
>beat since they last had firmware upgraded 9+ months ago.
>
>Now I know UBNT will have big shoes to fill if they plan on unseating
>Mikrotik, but give them a couple years and I think they'll be alright.
>I likely won't use the first generation in production.
>
>
>
>        -----
>        Mike Hammett
>        Intelligent Computing Solutions
>        http://www.ics-il.com
>
>        ----- Original Message -----
>        From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
>        To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>        Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 4:56:10 PM
>        Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
>
>
>
>I have no reason to buy them at all. They're going to be less reliable
>than Mikrotik (which is really really bad) and not be as good software
>wise. Where does this device fit?
>
>
>        Their ad suggests it is to replace a Cisco. Ya right.
>
>
>        Josh Luthman
>        Office: 937-552-2340
>        Direct: 937-552-2343
>        1100 Wayne St
>        Suite 1337
>        Troy, OH 45373
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>
>On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Mike Hammett < [email protected]
>> wrote:
>
>
>        That's an awfully bold statement. How come?
>
>
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>        -----
>        Mike Hammett
>        Intelligent Computing Solutions
>        http://www.ics-il.com
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>
>        ----- Original Message -----
>        From: "Christian Palecek" < [email protected] >
>        To: "WISPA General List" < [email protected] >
>        Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 4:30:22 PM
>        Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
>
>        I wouldn't touch one with a ten foot pole.
>
>        Sent from my Verizon Wireless smartphone
>
>        Jon Auer < [email protected] > wrote:
>
>>Streakwave is supposedly shipping orders placed back when it was
>announced.
>        >Mine hasn't arrived yet :-(
>   >On Jan 8, 2013 12:57 PM, "Steve Barnes" < [email protected] > wrote:
>        >
>>> That’s the new UBNT Edge Router line. I was not aware that they have
>        >> actually shipped to general public yet. ****
>        >>
>        >> ** **
>        >>
>>> UBNT is trying to get into the Router market as well. Time will
>tell.****
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>        >> Steve Barnes****
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>        >> Behalf Of *~NGL~
>        >> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 08, 2013 1:43 PM
>        >> *To:* WISPA General List
>        >> *Subject:* [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router****
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>        >>
>        >> Anyone have any experience with this router?****
>        >>
>        >> NGL****
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