How much capacity does your network run now? How much would you ideally like? Is connectivity poor all over the island? If you brought in a gig, could you sell it? If connectivity is poor or expensive, maybe you could pre-sell a bunch of dedicated services and buy some gig licensed links from Ceragon or Siae to get back to Hibernia. Again, I don't know your market's potential, but maybe something big to think about would be from Moncton to the island, through the island to the other end, then out to Truro. Hibernia could take you back to the states through Halifax and Montreal. That's kind of a pie in the sky, but if connectivity on the island sucks... Topography and available vertical real estate are important, but look to position your relay points near larger sources of potential revenue.
NetFlix won't set you up with your own box until you're at something like 10 gigs. NetFlix also doesn't appear to have any peering locations in Canada, so you'd have to come down here to get connectivity. I'm not sure where the coop group stands on viable locations outside of Chicago and Atlanta. Of the US locations, you'd want to go to Chicago, Ashburn or New York City. There are a few Canadian exchanges, but they're nowhere near as big as the ones I listed and you may not have enough Canadian WISP brethren interested in joining up to make one of those locations viable. For example, TorIX has 143 participants, then in second place Peer1 - Vancouver has 30. Equinix Ashburn has 343, Equinix Chicago has 215 and Any2 Los Angeles has 313. If you think there are a bunch of WISPs up north looking to bond together to reduce pricing, join the WISPA Coop list and let your intentions be known. I can help find transport. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 12:01:38 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Do WISPs need a deal with Google? Yes, Prince Edward Island, but the address is used only for the holding company. Our issue is any upstream link has to come through either Bell Aliant or the local Cableco, and as an example, a 50 Mbps feed costs over $2k per month. Honestly, I did not think of Hibernia, but I am very grateful to see it. A couple of towers to their node in Truro is do-able, and there was a ~50 mile direct link in place from the other side for a while to feed one site here, but Truro would require at least one repeater to get over the terrain nearby. If anyone has any tips/comments on improving the economics of a location, I would love to hear them, and if anyone has done any Netflix caching outside of a major facility. Thanks. Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote .. > I'll admit not knowing much about Canada, including who are incumbents and who > are competitive players. However, see if one of these guys could bring you > back > to a major facility. The Canadian maps aren't all that great, so many some of > these > guys are nowhere near you. > > TeliPhone, Telus, Roger's Business, Allstream, Bell Aliant, Hibernia. Hibernia > actually has a POP list and the nearest places to you are Moncton and Truro . > Sure > there's a good distance away, but you could build a licensed network to get > there. > > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Brough Turner" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 7:31:32 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Do WISPs need a deal with Google? > > > The domain name registration points to Prince Edward Island, Canada. > http://whois.net/whois/metrocom.ca > > > > Thanks, > Brough > > Brough Turner > netBlazr Inc. – Free your Broadband! > Website | Google+ | Twitter | LinkedIn | Facebook | Blog | netBlazr Inc. > On 7/25/13 7:50 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > > I meant the web site for his company, so I could figure out where he's > located. > Trying to see if any of the Coop work being done would\could benefit him. > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ----- Original Message > ----- > From: "Larry A. Weidig" <[email protected]> To: "WISPA General List" > <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 6:52:17 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Do WISPs need a deal with Google? > > His link just redirects to: > http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/07/google-internet-traffic/ > Larry A. Weidig ( [email protected] ) > Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/ (920) 452-0455 – Sheboygan/Plymouth > area > (888) 489-9995 – Other areas, toll-free > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> To: "WISPA General List" > <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 6:38:04 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Do WISPs need a deal with Google? > > I tried to look at your web site, but could only find 403 Forbidden pages. > Where > are you located? > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ----- Original Message > ----- > From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 > 6:26:22 > AM > Subject: [WISPA] Do WISPs need a deal with Google? > > Google Now Serves 25 Percent of North American Internet Traffic > http://www.linkedin.com/e/-cfpvfc-hjjoh3ku-2w/nab/5765071836882673744/x/true/weekly/eml-ced-b-art-N-5/?hs=false&tok=2saVC-5CB6DlQ1 > "Everyone knows Google is big. But the truth is that it’s huge. On an average > day, Google accounts for about 25 percent of all consumer internet traffic > running > through North American ISPs." > > _______________________________________________ > Wireless mailing list [email protected] > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > _______________________________________________ > Wireless mailing list [email protected] > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > _______________________________________________ > Wireless mailing list [email protected] > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > _______________________________________________ > Wireless mailing list [email protected] > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > > -- > > Thanks, > Brough > > Brough Turner > netBlazr Inc. – Free your Broadband! > Mobile: 617-285-0433 Skype: brough > netBlazr Inc. | Google+ | Twitter | LinkedIn | Facebook | Blog | Personal > website > > _______________________________________________ > Wireless mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless _______________________________________________ Wireless mailing list [email protected] http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless _______________________________________________ Wireless mailing list [email protected] http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
