Cameron - - I think the key is to sell with the intent of never going back to the sold internet business in case of default on the buyers part. Look at what they have to leverage (mortgage) to you that is not related to the ISP. You don't want to loan or finance anything to anyone at any time that doesn't have enough "real assets" to satisfy their debt with you completely. The amount of mortgaged items should cover not only the amount left financed from the deal, but also legal fees if they should default on their deal. Make everything go your way and CYA with paper!
Good Luck, Mac From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 3:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Selling ISP Doug, The problem I see with that is that you will most likely have to take the other party to court to enforce the terms of your agreement if one of the terms is breached. It could take months or even years to get a final judgement at which time there may be nothing left. This may be good advice for a non-wisp business, but in the fast paced world of broadband, customers will likely flee before a resolution is reached. If the buyer is left insolvent, you are left with nothing, and may be on the hook for all your own legal fees. I talked to three different business attorneys and they all told me to run from any seller financed deal regardless of who the buyer was. Again, if the buyer can't get financing on their own, are they a good buyer? On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Hass, Douglas A. <[email protected]> wrote: Of course! You have to have a willing seller and buyer to start. My point is that setting preconditions before you get started (as a buyer or as a seller) unnecessarily limits what you ultimately would be able to do. Don't take options off the table until you have a specific deal to consider. Then is the time to say "I'm only taking cash" or "I'll finance, but only with X, Y, and Z terms that protect me." Doug From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 2:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Selling ISP Depends on how bad you want to sell ...we don't always want to buy. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Hass, Douglas A." <[email protected]> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> Subject: [WISPA] Selling ISP Date: Wed, Mar 19, 2014 2:08 PM Cameron- There's lots of ways to structure the deal so that you're protected, even if the buyer is a complete imbecile and even if the buyer doesn't have cash up front. If you want to sell or if you want to buy, don't let the all-cash restriction prevent you from making a deal. If you end up in court chasing payments from the buyer, then you likely didn't draft your agreement carefully enough given your tolerance for risk (of course, your due diligence should be telling you whether the buyer is an imbecile, and that information should inform what kind of deal you're willing to accept). To categorically reject buyers who don't have 100% cash to hand you at closing might mean leaving money on the table or more flexible terms from someone who can put together a more attractive end package. In that sense, it works like selling real estate. The all-cash offer isn't always your best one. To Randy's point--Jab has undergone a major shakeup at the top. Many of the senior executive staff have departed in the last few months. That might account for some of the quietness. I don't have any inside information, just what I learned trying to round up potential panelists and speakers for WISPAmerica. Doug From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 1:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Selling ISP The seller is not a bank. Why should they take on all the risk? What happens if the buyer is a complete imbecile and runs the network into the ground and defaults on payments? Now you are in court suing for money you will most likely never see, and even if you retake possession of the network, it may be in shambles or most of your customers have left. We walked away from a couple of buyers who would not pony up the cash. I'd say as one who sold a wisp, if the buyer can't afford it, or can't arrange their own financing, you don't want to sell. On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: There's many more buyers out there. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com _____ From: "Randy Cosby" <[email protected]> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 11:00:34 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Selling ISP Is anyone actually buying right now? I haven't heard much about the big buyer (Jab) lately. On 3/19/2014 9:49 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: The going rate, we've seen (and has been discussed here many times), is about 1.5x annual revenue Douglas A. 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