Old proven trick: Give the customer 2-3 options. I like 2, since I find customers like simplicity. Cheap option, list the caveats and problems. Expensive option, get the most solid over engineered fool proof stuff out there.
Let the customer decide if they want to be cheap or have a solid solution. If you have problems with the cheap one, they call and you fix it and charge appropriately. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Sam Tetherow <tethe...@shwisp.net> wrote: > And cost ;) There is some room in that you can always add batteries or a > panel (or swap out the panel). I guess my thought on Josh's original post > was over engineer it, if the customer doesn't want to pay for the equipment > you are out nothing (other than a customer you couldn't reach anyway). And > if they do pay for it, you want something that is reliable since they are > outlaying a good chunk of cash in their mind whether that is $500 or $1000 > dollars. > > You don't want them saying I spent $500 for this setup and it dies in the > middle of a snow storm, and you don't want to be running out to do > maintenance on a site for a single customer in inclement weather which is > about the only time you have problems with a solar setup. > > > On 04/08/2014 12:45 PM, Tom Fadgen wrote: > > You have to remember, in the winter the sun is much less available. There > is no such thing as too much... only your tolerance for downtime! > I have overshot the mark a few times. > > 120(min) watt Solar Panel > Morningstar SunSaver SS-10L-24V Charge Controller > Solar Cable > Tycon *TP-DCDC-1224* > *Cabinet* > *Batteries, at least 180amp hours, gives 3 days of no sun* > > *Tom Fadgen* > > > On Tuesday 08/04/2014 at 9:49 am, Josh Luthman wrote: > > Robert's over here doing 1/3 of that, though. He's got a 15 watt load > (two Ubnt, rb750p). > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net>wrote: > >> More panel is better than less panel. ;-) >> >> Not sure I'd go less than half of that. >> >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >> *Sent: *Tuesday, April 8, 2014 11:41:52 AM >> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Solar powered repeater kit >> >> >> That looks like massive overkill, are you using a ~10 watt load or are >> you doing much more? Quick math tells me the batteries would do 12 days on >> a 10 watt load. >> >> Do you find you need a 290 watt panel (though this also leads back to >> the question)? >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Sam Tetherow <tethe...@shwisp.net>wrote: >> >>> I have one up for 2 customers. They paid the cost on the tower and >>> solar setup, I put up the AP. Pretty low maintenance, only issue I have on >>> them is snow accumulating on the panels. >>> >>> Astronergy 290W 24V panel $280 >>> Morningstar SunSaver SS-10L-24V Charge Controller $63 >>> MC4 >>> cable >>> $31 >>> Shipping �� >>> $249 >>> >>> Two deep-cycle RV battteries from Sams Club (120ah) $250 >>> >>> Wire the load out of the charge controller to the DC in on a Toughswitch >>> put up a NanoBridge for the backhaul and a NanoStation for the AP. >>> >>> >>> On 04/08/2014 11:00 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>> >>> Has anyone deployed a solar powered repeater for a single customer? >>> For example, their house is in the middle of a forest but you can provide >>> service at the end of their lane. >>> >>> This comes up here and there and I'm looking to put together a kit of >>> Nanos, solar panels, battery and give the customer the price. I thought I >>> would ask here before reinventing the wheel. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wireless mailing list >>> Wireless@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wireless mailing list >> Wireless@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wireless mailing list >> Wireless@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wireless mailing > listWireless@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >
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