I'm right there with ya Matt. Steve, Do you have any competitors in your area? City/County/Government putting up 5ghz?
Around here there are 7 (including us) using 5ghz in a WISP/Managed services capacity. Add on the city doing a 1-3 antennas on every major intersection in town for traffic light control plus some of their own inter building connections and it's VERY busy in the main part of town. It's driving us to licensed links to get the bandwidth out of our data center where we can use DFS to make short jumps to sub towers. Last week a competitor (wispa member) fired up a 5ghz link and took down an entire tower for us until we moved to a DFS channel then eventually they turned it off and we moved back to our original channel. Unfortunately because of the distance to this tower I can't use DFS legally and because of channel usage don't have a second link. (sucks) On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Matt Hoppes <mhop...@indigowireless.com> wrote: > I totally understand, Steve. > > What I'm saying is now you have folks throwing up 5GHz 40MHz > backhauls.... ewwwww. I guess we'll say. It's nice the options are out > there, but I wish they could be saved for use in the hands of WISPs only. > > > On 8/6/14, 2:17 PM, Steve Barnes wrote: > > Matt, nausea can be fixed with realism. I have used nothing but 5GHz > backhauls for 8 years. Only in the last 2 years have we gone to any 5 GHz > Client other than business. I have 15 towers and each has at least 2 paths > in and out for redundancy. So that is 35+ Links. Most are 5 miles or more > so not an AF24 candidate in my rain zone. I can't afford to just go out > and buy $175,000 worth of licensed backhauls. But for the price of one > Licensed link I can buy 2.5- 5GHz links (AF5, Mimosa, or whoever) saving > me $100,000 when all is said and done. > > > > Would I prefer to do all licensed and save all the 5GHz for Customer? > Heck Yes!! But that is not the reality I live in. > > > > Steve Barnes > > General Manager > > PCSWIN.com > > Howard LLC. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Matt Hoppes > > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 2:03 PM > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mimosa B5-160 v UBNT AF5-US Chart (working) > > > > I guess... all this backhauling in 5GHz is just making me nauseous. > > > > > > > > On 8/6/14, 1:48 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > >> Higher one way throughput. > >> More channels to choose from. > >> DFS hit doesn't take your link down. > >> External antennas. > >> Once you add in those external antennas, there are a ton of things > >> that vary like X-pol and F/B. > >> Lower power consumption. > >> Standard PoE. > >> Etc. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- > >> Mike Hammett > >> Intelligent Computing Solutions > >> http://www.ics-il.com > >> > >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentC > >> omputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent- > >> computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> -- > >> *From: *"Matt Hoppes" <mhop...@indigowireless.com> > >> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > >> *Sent: *Wednesday, August 6, 2014 12:40:36 PM > >> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Mimosa B5-160 v UBNT AF5-US Chart (working) > >> > >> THanks Josh! > >> I'm not sure this puts the Mimosa device in a positive spot light? > >> > >> H/V instead of cross-slant antennas. > >> Pretty bad F/B compared to the airFiber. > >> And latency is higher than an airFiber > >> > >> What's the "amazing" thing about this new device? > >> > >> On 8/5/14, 6:16 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > >>> > >> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gurmZ2nJru0e87DZuGxfipTB326NiP > >> OTkLXNIXBDfdc/edit?usp=sharing > >>> > >>> submit comments for approval / additions please > >>> > >>> I'm waiting back on UBNT to help further fill in the chart, and some > >>> of it I'm lazy on. > >>> > >>> TODO: For sure, add bandwidth / distance / modulation / signal / > >>> channel width table > >>> > >>> Also, would like to hear Mimosa's PPS count, and see any results of > >>> an > >>> RFC2544 test (which normally eats most wireless gear alive). > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wireless mailing list > >> Wireless@wispa.org > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wireless mailing list > >> Wireless@wispa.org > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Wireless mailing list > > Wireless@wispa.org > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > _______________________________________________ > > Wireless mailing list > > Wireless@wispa.org > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > _______________________________________________ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > -- Adair Winter VP of Network Operations / Owner Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 C: 806.231.7180 http://www.amarillowireless.net
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