The only wimax phones that existed were a few phones on sprint where clearwire had built out coverage. No other national carrier had wimax and it was never fully adopted. Now every national carrier and many regional ones have LTE networks and have committed to that standard. This is worldwide as well with many carriers going LTE as their new data network. Wimax was never fully adopted by any industry while LTE has shown it is.
I agree with Patrick that many people here are ignorant of the standards and the scalability opportunities of LTE. I myself am ignorant of the facts as well but I'm learning not just from Patrick but reading about the new LTE releases coming up so I can respond here with educated answers. I suggest other operators do their research as well instead of just replying with childish answers to this thread. It is hurting our reputation to whine and complain about a new product and LTE standards when we don't know what we're talking about. This technology is working for operators who are using it so please continue to do more research as we hear from more people deploying it and then ask fair, educated questions like adults. Thank you On Wednesday, December 17, 2014, Robert Andrews <[email protected]> wrote: > Well it's the invisible 800 lb gorilla for the rest of the tech in the > Internet... > > > On 12/17/14 5:45 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > Uhm not sure that's the industry that would sway something like that... > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > On Dec 17, 2014 8:39 PM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > >> If porn chooses WiMAX will it come back? >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> >> *To: *"WISPA General List" <[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> >> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 17, 2014 7:37:06 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] AeroNetPR wants to share this story >> >> Well Wimax vs LTE I think was won when Verizon decided on it. >> >> It's like Bluray vs HDDVD - porn chose Bluray. Or Beta vs VHS - porn >> chose VHS. >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 8:18 PM, Patrick Leary <[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: >>> >>> Really, Guys, you are sounding like silly kids. Remind about it being >>> just like WiMAX as you pull that LTE phone out of your pocket. >>> >>> >>> >>> *Patrick Leary* >>> >>> *M* 727.501.3735 >>> >>> <http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* [email protected] >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> [mailto: >>> [email protected] >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>] *On >>> Behalf Of *Mike Hammett >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:09 PM >>> *To:* WISPA General List >>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] AeroNetPR wants to share this story >>> >>> >>> >>> The next idea is always a better one. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> [image: Image removed by sender.] <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[image: >>> Image removed by sender.] >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[image: >>> Image removed by sender.] >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[image: >>> Image removed by sender.] <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <[email protected] >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> >>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <[email protected] >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> >>> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 17, 2014 7:08:04 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] AeroNetPR wants to share this story >>> >>> 5 years ago it was WiMAX vs LTE. Didn't people say the same thing you >>> are now about WiMAX? >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> On Dec 17, 2014 7:06 PM, "Patrick Leary" <[email protected] >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: >>> >>> Not sure I understand the question in the sense WiMAX does not belong in >>> the discussion. WiMAX was always at best a nichey thing, embraced by almost >>> no large operator, save for a variety of small country fixed operators, not >>> a global standard operating across most bands and universally accepted by >>> carriers. >>> >>> >>> >>> Just as Wi-Fi has subsumed pretty much everything else in local area >>> wireless (and is now in fact synonymous with WLAN), LTE will do the same >>> for PMP outdoor beyond commonly accepted Wi-Fi ranges (WISP Wi-Fi ranges >>> are not commonly accepted in a macro market sense, but rather exist as a >>> proprietary model for a deeply niche market). >>> >>> >>> >>> *Patrick Leary* >>> >>> *M* 727.501.3735 >>> >>> <http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* [email protected] >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> [mailto: >>> [email protected] >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>] *On >>> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 17, 2014 6:22 PM >>> *To:* WISPA General List >>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] AeroNetPR wants to share this story >>> >>> >>> >>> 5 years ago, how did it look with Wimax and LTE? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 6:20 PM, Patrick Leary <[email protected] >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: >>> >>> I'm not betting on a company at all. I'm betting on an industry. No one >>> vendor is doing the LTE R&D. There's more R&D being invested in LTE >>> ecosystem wide than any other telecom technology in history I suspect. >>> >>> >>> >>> *Patrick Leary* >>> >>> *M* 727.501.3735 >>> >>> <http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* [email protected] >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> [mailto: >>> [email protected] >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>] *On >>> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 17, 2014 6:17 PM >>> *To:* WISPA General List >>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] AeroNetPR wants to share this story >>> >>> >>> >>> Well you're betting on a company that's not doing hot against Verizon >>> and AT&T =P >>> >>> >>> >>> When they start competing against me I'll pay attention. Since I'm >>> confident they're not able to make money in rural areas like Clear or Open >>> Range couldn't, I doubt third time is a charm. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Patrick Leary <[email protected] >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: >>> >>> Like I've been telling folks, LTE will steam roll. So much for the "LTE >>> can't deal with unlicensed." Anyone want to bet against the billions being >>> thrown into LTE for R&D and the top scientific minds using those funds? I >>> expect they will easily overcome (to the extent needed) what some WISPs >>> mistakenly think are intractable problems. Being a WISP and being a top >>> EE/systems engineer are different disciplines. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *Patrick Leary* >>> >>> *M* 727.501.3735 >>> >>> <http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* [email protected] >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> [mailto: >>> [email protected] >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>] *On >>> Behalf Of *Gino Villarini >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 17, 2014 5:53 PM >>> *To:* WISPA General List >>> *Subject:* [WISPA] AeroNetPR wants to share this story >>> >>> >>> >>> @LTEwatch: "Confirmed: T-Mobile to launch unlicensed LTE at 5 GHz, >>> possibly next year" http://t.co/GyPo5iFt1y >>> >>> Original Message >>> <https://twitter.com/LTEwatch/status/545341191085359104> >>> >>> Click below to easily share or schedule to Twitter, Facebook and >>> LinkedIn: >>> Easy Share Link >>> <https://hootsuite.com/hootlet/social-share?partner=BSUiPhone&title=%40LTEwatch%3A%20%22Confirmed%3A%20T-Mobile%20to%20launch%20unlicensed%20LTE%20at%205%20GHz%2C%20possibly%20next%20year%22%20http%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2FGyPo5iFt1y> >>> >>> >>> >>> Gino A. 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