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Darin Steffl <[email protected]> wrote ..
> The only wimax phones that existed were a few phones on sprint where
> clearwire had built out coverage. No other national carrier had wimax and
> it was never fully adopted. Now every national carrier and many regional
> ones have LTE networks and have committed to that standard. This is
> worldwide as well with many carriers going LTE as their new data network.
> Wimax was never fully adopted by any industry while LTE has shown it is.
> 
> I agree with Patrick that many people here are ignorant of the standards
> and the scalability opportunities of LTE. I myself am ignorant of the facts
> as well but I'm learning not just from Patrick but reading about the new
> LTE releases coming up so I can respond here with educated answers. I
> suggest other operators do their research as well instead of just replying
> with childish answers to this thread. It is hurting our reputation to whine
> and complain about a new product and LTE standards when we don't know what
> we're talking about. This technology is working for operators who are using
> it so please continue to do more research as we hear from more people
> deploying it and then ask fair, educated questions like adults. Thank you
> 
> On Wednesday, December 17, 2014, Robert Andrews <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
> >  Well it's the invisible 800 lb gorilla for the rest of the tech in the
> > Internet...
> >
> >
> > On 12/17/14 5:45 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> >
> > Uhm not sure that's the industry that would sway something like that...
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > Office: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> > On Dec 17, 2014 8:39 PM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]
> > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:
> >
> >>  If porn chooses WiMAX will it come back?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----
> >> Mike Hammett
> >> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> >> http://www.ics-il.com
> >>
> >>  <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> >>
> >>  ------------------------------
> >> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <[email protected]
> >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>>
> >> *To: *"WISPA General List" <[email protected]
> >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>>
> >> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 17, 2014 7:37:06 PM
> >> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] AeroNetPR wants to share this story
> >>
> >> Well Wimax vs LTE I think was won when Verizon decided on it.
> >>
> >>  It's like Bluray vs HDDVD - porn chose Bluray.  Or Beta vs VHS - porn
> >> chose VHS.
> >>
> >>
> >>  Josh Luthman
> >> Office: 937-552-2340
> >> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >> 1100 Wayne St
> >> Suite 1337
> >> Troy, OH 45373
> >>
> >> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 8:18 PM, Patrick Leary <[email protected]
> >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>  Really, Guys, you are sounding like silly kids. Remind about it being
> >>> just like WiMAX as you pull that LTE phone out of your pocket.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> *Patrick Leary*
> >>>
> >>> *M* 727.501.3735
> >>>
> >>> <http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> *From:* [email protected]
> >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> [mailto:
> >>> [email protected]
> >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>] *On
> >>> Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
> >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:09 PM
> >>> *To:* WISPA General List
> >>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] AeroNetPR wants to share this story
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The next idea is always a better one.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----
> >>> Mike Hammett
> >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> >>> http://www.ics-il.com
> >>>
> >>> [image: Image removed by sender.] <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[image:
> >>> Image removed by sender.]
> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[image:
> >>> Image removed by sender.]
> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[image:
> >>> Image removed by sender.] <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> >>>
> >>>    ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <[email protected]
> >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>>
> >>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <[email protected]
> >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>>
> >>> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 17, 2014 7:08:04 PM
> >>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] AeroNetPR wants to share this story
> >>>
> >>> 5 years ago it was WiMAX vs LTE.  Didn't people say the same thing you
> >>> are now about WiMAX?
> >>>
> >>> Josh Luthman
> >>> Office: 937-552-2340
> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >>> 1100 Wayne St
> >>> Suite 1337
> >>> Troy, OH 45373
> >>>
> >>> On Dec 17, 2014 7:06 PM, "Patrick Leary" <[email protected]
> >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Not sure I understand the question in the sense WiMAX does not belong in
> >>> the discussion. WiMAX was always at best a nichey thing, embraced by 
> >>> almost
> >>> no large operator, save for a variety of small country fixed operators, 
> >>> not
> >>> a global standard operating across most bands and universally accepted by
> >>> carriers.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Just as Wi-Fi has subsumed pretty much everything else in local area
> >>> wireless (and is now in fact synonymous with WLAN), LTE will do the same
> >>> for PMP outdoor beyond commonly accepted Wi-Fi ranges (WISP Wi-Fi ranges
> >>> are not commonly accepted in a macro market sense, but rather exist as a
> >>> proprietary model for a deeply niche market).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> *Patrick Leary*
> >>>
> >>> *M* 727.501.3735
> >>>
> >>>  <http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> *From:* [email protected]
> >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> [mailto:
> >>> [email protected]
> >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>] *On
> >>> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 17, 2014 6:22 PM
> >>> *To:* WISPA General List
> >>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] AeroNetPR wants to share this story
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 5 years ago, how did it look with Wimax and LTE?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Josh Luthman
> >>> Office: 937-552-2340
> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >>> 1100 Wayne St
> >>> Suite 1337
> >>> Troy, OH 45373
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 6:20 PM, Patrick Leary <[email protected]
> >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I'm not betting on a company at all. I'm betting on an industry. No one
> >>> vendor is doing the LTE R&D. There's more R&D being invested in LTE
> >>> ecosystem wide than any other telecom technology in history I suspect.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> *Patrick Leary*
> >>>
> >>> *M* 727.501.3735
> >>>
> >>>  <http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> *From:* [email protected]
> >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> [mailto:
> >>> [email protected]
> >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>] *On
> >>> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 17, 2014 6:17 PM
> >>> *To:* WISPA General List
> >>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] AeroNetPR wants to share this story
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Well you're betting on a company that's not doing hot against Verizon
> >>> and AT&T =P
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> When they start competing against me I'll pay attention.  Since I'm
> >>> confident they're not able to make money in rural areas like Clear or Open
> >>> Range couldn't, I doubt third time is a charm.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Josh Luthman
> >>> Office: 937-552-2340
> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >>> 1100 Wayne St
> >>> Suite 1337
> >>> Troy, OH 45373
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Patrick Leary <[email protected]
> >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Like I've been telling folks, LTE will steam roll. So much for the "LTE
> >>> can't deal with unlicensed." Anyone want to bet against the billions being
> >>> thrown into LTE for R&D and the top scientific minds using those funds? I
> >>> expect they will easily overcome (to the extent needed) what some WISPs
> >>> mistakenly think are intractable problems. Being a WISP and being a top
> >>> EE/systems engineer are different disciplines.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> *Patrick Leary*
> >>>
> >>> *M* 727.501.3735
> >>>
> >>>  <http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> *From:* [email protected]
> >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> [mailto:
> >>> [email protected]
> >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>] *On
> >>> Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
> >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 17, 2014 5:53 PM
> >>> *To:* WISPA General List
> >>> *Subject:* [WISPA] AeroNetPR wants to share this story
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> @LTEwatch: "Confirmed: T-Mobile to launch unlicensed LTE at 5 GHz,
> >>> possibly next year" http://t.co/GyPo5iFt1y
> >>>
> >>> Original Message
> >>> <https://twitter.com/LTEwatch/status/545341191085359104>
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Gino A. Villarini
> >>>
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> >>>
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