good to hear you had success!

i'd prefer to do fiber as well but until all vendors support it the need
for using copper exists.

-sean


On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Chadwick Wachs <c...@auwireless.net>
wrote:

> Wanted to circle back on this with results.  Bought a 100' section of
> metal lined LiquidTight at Home Depot (3/4" since I only needed 2 cables).
> The 100' section was exactly the right length to get from the antennas all
> the way to my cabinet in the machine room so now the cables are protected
> in the cable trays down below as well.
>
> Used hose clamps to attach the conduit to the tower every ~6 feet. Since I
> had to make 2 90 degree turns on the way down, the flexible conduit was
> great.  I did pull my two Ethernet wires through the conduit while it was
> on the ground - figured that would be much easier - and it was. Cable is
> Ubiquiti Carrier Shielded (the double shielded version).  I also added the
> ends with the grounding cable and grounded both the top and the bottom of
> the Ethernet to a good ground.
>
> Been up for about two weeks now with no Ethernet issues at all. Did not
> put Ferrites on these two cables like all the rest of mine have.  I still
> get an occasional Ethernet packet drop or error on the Ferrited cables. So
> far, solid on the two cables in the LiquidTight.
>
> Yes, fiber is still a better long term solution but this was fairly
> inexpensive and quick and is working great.  Thanks for the suggestion.
>
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 10:51 AM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
>
>> my bad, i was answering late in the evening, i was thinking PVC when you
>> said EMT.  EMT will work too since it's metal but it's hard to work with on
>> a tower.  the 3/4" liquidtight that you linked to will fit 3 cables.  we
>> usually run 1 1/2" or 1 3/4" (i can't remember which at the moment) and you
>> can fit 13 cables in it.  we run it up to a box on the tower and then use
>> 3/4" to run from the box to the individual APs or backhauls.  we run the
>> conduit first and then drop the ethernet cables down from the top.
>>
>> -sean
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 11:17 PM, Chadwick Wachs <c...@auwireless.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Interesting... Certainly easier to run.  Because I have to make two 90
>>> degree turns (damn "H" shaped tower), I think I'll pull my Ethernet through
>>> it on the ground and then run it up the tower with cable in it.  I'm
>>> guessing that cutting it and putting 90 degree elbows (with cable pull
>>> windows) on it is a bad idea from an RF standpoint?
>>>
>>> My local HD has this in stock:
>>>
>>> http://www.homedepot.com/p/AFC-Cable-Systems-3-4-in-x-100-ft
>>> -Liquidtight-Flexible-Steel-Conduit-6203-30-00/202262413
>>>
>>> That looks what you describe.
>>>
>>> I have to ask - from a physics(?) standpoint, what keeps RF out of the
>>> Liquidtight but not EMT?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you do conduit you need to use liquidtight with the metal inside.
>>>> EMT will do nothing to stop the RF from bleeding.
>>>>
>>>> We've done it on several towers with great success.
>>>>
>>>> -Sean
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, September 8, 2016, Chadwick Wachs <c...@auwireless.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> With two new FM stations moving onto the tower I am on, I need to
>>>>> solve the FM noise problem once and for all.  I've been using Ferrites on
>>>>> each end of the Ethernet cable and its been pretty successful but I need 
>>>>> to
>>>>> add a couple more antennas so I am considering conduit.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is not my area of expertise but from what I read, it sounds like
>>>>> running conduit up the tower (only 75' for my antennas) is the best long
>>>>> term solution?  My plan was to buy some 3/4" EMT in 10' sections and clamp
>>>>> it to the tower from bottom to top and run my shielded cables inside of
>>>>> that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is that the route to go?  I am guessing I want to keep my service
>>>>> loops at the top of the conduit pretty short or I negate what I just did. 
>>>>> I
>>>>> do have longer loops at the bottom in the building so my Ethernet cables
>>>>> are longer than my antenna ground wires. I'm planning on not putting
>>>>> Ferrites on the cables that are in the conduit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tower has 5 FM stations on it, a 900mhz paging company and two UHF DTV
>>>>> stations - along with some other 5 Ghz stuff.  The FM stations are "lower"
>>>>> power (250 - 400 watts) but it sounds like those are the culprit for
>>>>> Ethernet issues (other than AM which is no where near this tower).
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the advice.
>>>>>
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