What happens when DHCP quits and you can't manage anything?
Powercode assigns the next available management IP for whatever tower/range
and we statically assign to the CPE

On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 6:13 PM, Ian Fraser <[email protected]> wrote:

> Not sure how static would be safer than DHCP for CPE mgmt?
>
> Ian
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Fred Goldstein <[email protected]>
> Date:10-21-2016 6:31 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: [email protected]
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network/infrastructure design for WISP's
>
> On 10/21/2016 5:55 PM, Ian Fraser wrote:
> >
> >
> > PPPOE for Res traffic. VLAN's for Biz. Public IP's are statically
> > assigned.  DHCP for CPE's MgMt IP assignment.  PPPOE session and CPE's
> > connection to the AP authenticated by Radius. Radius Accounting  is
> > used for traffic billing and session info.
> >
>
> Wouldn't it be safer to use static IPs for CPE management? I'd do that,
> private IPs of course on a management VLAN not visible to customers.
>
> > Per site: 2 VLANs for MgMt (1 for Tower/AP/UPS etc and 1 for CPEs) and
> > 1 VLAN per AP for PPPOE or a dedicated VLAN per Biz. AP's are bridged
> > for CPE's PPPOE to NAS.  uPnP enabled CPEs. Cust Routers are not
> > allowed to initiate PPPOE.  PPPOE NAS's are mostly colocated tower
> > sites so that backhauls can see QOS markers on traffic and not just a
> > Tunnel.
> >
> > BGP Advertises IP range per Fibre POP and feeds 0.0.0.0/0 into OSPF
> > for redistributing routes inside the AS.  Infrastructure MgMt is on
> > RFC1918 and customers are Public IPs.  Firewall rules on
> > NAS/Router/CPE prevent Customer IP's from reaching MgMt IP's.
> >
> Nice if you have enough public IPs for customers. I'm not sure BGP and
> PPPOE are necessarily the easiest protocols for this purpose, but
> definitely do use the VLANs and keep the routing out of the radios.
>
> > Mikrotik for all routing.  Netonix for most switching. Mikrotik for
> > most PtMP (probably uncommon) but LTE is Telrad in areas where it is
> > deployed, which skews the above architecture a bit :(  LTE is not for
> > newbies though.... mind you maybe Mikrotik isn't either lol...  but in
> > 13 years I've never been floored by a virus "infecting" my gear ;-)
> >
> You can't do 5 GHz with MikroTik in the US; they don't have valid FCC
> approval any more. Not that they admit it, but the US isn't a big market
> for them. The wireless design itself has to be based on the local
> terrain, clutter (trees, etc.), subscriber density, and other conditions.
>
> You do want a nice SNMP monitoring system that allows you to pull
> whatever parameters you want out of the MIB, not one that charges per
> line item (like PRTG) or that only pulls a few selected details. I do
> enjoy the detail I can get out of InterMapper, for instance. Where are
> you (or your planned network) located, Jordan?
>
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Ian
> >
> >
> >> On 10/21/2016 3:07 PM, Jordan de Geus wrote:
> >>> Hey guys,
> >>>
> >>> I'm very new to the WISP industry and I've been curious to know how
> >>> people are designing their WISP networks.
> >>>
> >>> Are you creating VLAN's for each connection point? So your backhauls
> >>> are all in one VLAN, while all AP to client connections are in
> >>> another VLAN?
> >>>
> >>> I had been thinking about how the above VLAN based design would be,
> >>> in terms of security, and I realized that if all CPE's were in one
> >>> VLAN together, wouldn't they be able to cross communicate? So an AP
> >>> with 30 clients operating in VLANX, would essentially be able to
> >>> communicate to each other, bring security as a major issue. I was
> >>> thinking that you'd be able to do VLAN's for each customer, but
> >>> doing a PTMP setup for residential purposes, I feel like the system
> >>> would be quite bogged down with that amount of vlans?
> >>>
> >>> How are you authenticating and issuing IP's to clients? Are you
> >>> doing PPPOE or DHCP? Is everything just in routed tables?
> >>>
> >>> What sort of hardware are you using for your network design and
> >>> management?
> >>>
> >>> Kind Regards,
> >>> Jordan
> >>>
>
>
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>   Interisle Consulting Group
>   +1 617 795 2701
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