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On Feb 2, 2017 4:13 PM, "Scott Reed" <[email protected]> wrote:

> WISPA has at least 7 hardware brand  specific lists.  In addition the
> general lists have folks from many backgrounds and network topological that
> are most willing to answer questions.
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> There are also several general topic lists such as IPv6, Fiber, TVWS, etc.
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> Some of the lists are member only.  The best way to find them is to login
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> Many of the vendor also run a maillist or forum.  Check the vendor sites
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> If you ask a question here that might have more answers on another list,
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> On 2/2/2017 2:03 PM, OOLLC-Support wrote:
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> Is there a users group that post about mixed hardware networks? and what
> would be there name for postings?
>
> I use Ubiquiti and am looking for other hardware that would function
> well with or better than what I have
>
> Jan
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> On 02/02/2017 07:33 AM, [email protected] wrote:
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>     1. Re:  Static IP Pricing (Brad Belton)
>     2. Re:  Static IP Pricing (Simon Westlake)
>     3. Re:  Static IP Pricing (Troy Gibson, Byhalia.net)
>     4. Re:  Static IP Pricing (Bryce Duchcherer)
>     5. Re:  Static IP Pricing (Colton Conor)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 09:24:48 -0600
> From: "Brad Belton" <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Static IP Pricing
> To: "'WISPA General List'" <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
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> If they are able to legitimately justify a /26 in IP space then it?s possible 
> you aren?t charging enough for your service.
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> Brad
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> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] 
> <[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Tim Way
> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 9:14 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Static IP Pricing
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> Life in IPv4 is getting more expensive as scarcity increases.
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> On Feb 2, 2017 9:13 AM, "Colton Conor" <[email protected]> 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
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> So a /26 has 64 total IPs, but only 62 are useable. So you are saying you 
> would charge $5 - $10 per IP times 62 IPs? The cost of their statics would 
> then cost more than the actual service?
>
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> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 8:44 AM, Scott Pope <[email protected]> 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
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> We charge $8.50 per month/per IP for our Static IP addresses.  This has been 
> our pricing for 10+ years.
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> Scott Pope
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> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 7:16 AM, Troy Gibson, Byhalia.net <[email protected]> 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
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> $5/month/IP
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> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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> -------- Original message --------
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> From: Judd Dare <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
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> Date: 2/1/17 9:28 PM (GMT-05:00)
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> To: WISPA General List <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Static IP Pricing
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> Typical cost is around $1-2/IP/Month with various fiber providers.
>
> I've been planning to charge something like $10-20/IP/Mo for commercial in 
> order to only sell to people who really need it.
>
>
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> On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 7:22 PM, Colton Conor <[email protected]> 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
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> How much do you charge business customers for static IPs?
>
>
>
> Comcast Business class cable internet charges
>
>   1 - $14.95/mo.
>
>   5 - $19.95/mo
>
>   13 - $34.95/mo.
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>
> What do fiber providers charge?
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>
> I have a potential client that currently has a /27 with his current provider, 
> and would like at least a /27 or preferably a /26 from us.
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> We only have a /21 worth of space from ARIN.
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> Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 09:29:05 -0600
> From: Simon Westlake <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Static IP Pricing
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> When I was at TWC, we would give out up to a /24 to a customer if they
> could justify it. Beyond that, we'd push them to go to ARIN. This was on
> fiber, if they were on coax, it was super expensive (like $50+ for a /29)
>
> There was list pricing on the static IPs, but it was one of the first
> things to be discounted in negotiation. That being said, this was ~7
> years ago. I would look at what it will cost you to buy a /24 on the
> auction block, and charge enough to be able to replace your IPs as you
> run out - that would be the simplest justification. It's hard to compare
> to AT&T, as they probably have a lot of unused space, and a lot more
> resources to be able to obtain more.
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> On 2/2/2017 9:20 AM, Colton Conor wrote:
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> Agreed, but I need to be able to justify this pricing somehow. What
> does AT&T charge if you get their Fiber MIS product? Is it unlimited
> with justification or what? What are most fiber providers doing even
> the ones that have extremely large blocks?
>
> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 9:14 AM, Tim Way <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
> <[email protected]>> wrote:
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>      Life in IPv4 is getting more expensive as scarcity increases.
>
>      On Feb 2, 2017 9:13 AM, "Colton Conor" <[email protected]
>      <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>          So a /26 has 64 total IPs, but only 62 are useable. So you are
>          saying you would charge $5 - $10 per IP times 62 IPs? The cost
>          of their statics would then cost more than the actual service?
>
>          On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 8:44 AM, Scott Pope
>          <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
> <[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>              We charge $8.50 per month/per IP for our Static IP
>              addresses.  This has been our pricing for 10+ years.
>
>
>              --
>              Scott Pope
>              Network and Operations Officer
>              Arbuckle Communications, LLC
>              Office: 580-226-1234 <(580)%20226-1234> 
> <tel:%28580%29%20226-1234> <%28580%29%20226-1234>
>              Mobile: 580-277-1108 <(580)%20277-1108> 
> <tel:%28580%29%20277-1108> <%28580%29%20277-1108>
>              [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
> <[email protected]>
>              www.arbucklecomm.com <http://www.arbucklecomm.com> 
> <http://www.arbucklecomm.com>
>              /*"We Are Built For Business"
>              */
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>              On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 7:16 AM, Troy Gibson, Byhalia.net
>              <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]>> 
> wrote:
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>                  $5/month/IP
>
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>                  Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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>                  -------- Original message --------
>                  From: Judd Dare <[email protected]
>                  <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]>>
>                  Date: 2/1/17 9:28 PM (GMT-05:00)
>                  To: WISPA General List <[email protected]
>                  <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]>>
>                  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Static IP Pricing
>
>                  Typical cost is around $1-2/IP/Month with various
>                  fiber providers.
>
>                  I've been planning to charge something like
>                  $10-20/IP/Mo for commercial in order to only sell to
>                  people who really need it.
>
>                  On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 7:22 PM, Colton Conor
>                  <[email protected]
>                  <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]>> 
> wrote:
>
>                      How much do you charge business customers for
>                      static IPs?
>
>                      Comcast Business class cable internet charges
>                      *1 - $14.95/mo.*
>                      * 5 - $19.95/mo*
>                      * 13 - $34.95/mo*.
>
>                      What do fiber providers charge?
>
>                      I have a potential client that currently has a /27
>                      with his current provider, and would like at least
>                      a /27 or preferably a /26 from us.
>
>                      We only have a /21 worth of space from ARIN.
>
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