If you have questions about specific issues of mixing equipment post to 
either of their respective lists make sense (like posting on the UBNT 
list about issues/questions/concerns running UBNT with Netonix).


If you are looking for a better replacement for a brand of equipment 
then the general list (this list) is probably the better place.  
Legitimate concerns/complaints shouldn't been discouraged on any list.


On 02/02/2017 01:03 PM, OOLLC-Support wrote:
> Is there a users group that post about mixed hardware networks? and what
> would be there name for postings?
>
> I use Ubiquiti and am looking for other hardware that would function
> well with or better than what I have
>
> Jan
>
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>>      1. Re:  Static IP Pricing (Brad Belton)
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>>      3. Re:  Static IP Pricing (Troy Gibson, Byhalia.net)
>>      4. Re:  Static IP Pricing (Bryce Duchcherer)
>>      5. Re:  Static IP Pricing (Colton Conor)
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>> Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 09:24:48 -0600
>> From: "Brad Belton" <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Static IP Pricing
>> To: "'WISPA General List'" <[email protected]>
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>> If they are able to legitimately justify a /26 in IP space then it?s 
>> possible you aren?t charging enough for your service.
>>
>>    
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>> Brad
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>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>> Behalf Of Tim Way
>> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 9:14 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Static IP Pricing
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>> Life in IPv4 is getting more expensive as scarcity increases.
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>> On Feb 2, 2017 9:13 AM, "Colton Conor" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> So a /26 has 64 total IPs, but only 62 are useable. So you are saying you 
>> would charge $5 - $10 per IP times 62 IPs? The cost of their statics would 
>> then cost more than the actual service?
>>
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>> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 8:44 AM, Scott Pope <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> We charge $8.50 per month/per IP for our Static IP addresses.  This has been 
>> our pricing for 10+ years.
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>> Scott Pope
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>> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 7:16 AM, Troy Gibson, Byhalia.net <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
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>> $5/month/IP
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>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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>> From: Judd Dare <[email protected]>
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>> Date: 2/1/17 9:28 PM (GMT-05:00)
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>> To: WISPA General List <[email protected]>
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>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Static IP Pricing
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>> Typical cost is around $1-2/IP/Month with various fiber providers.
>>
>> I've been planning to charge something like $10-20/IP/Mo for commercial in 
>> order to only sell to people who really need it.
>>
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>> On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 7:22 PM, Colton Conor <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> How much do you charge business customers for static IPs?
>>
>>    
>>
>> Comcast Business class cable internet charges
>>
>>    1 - $14.95/mo.
>>
>>    5 - $19.95/mo
>>
>>    13 - $34.95/mo.
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>> What do fiber providers charge?
>>
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>> I have a potential client that currently has a /27 with his current 
>> provider, and would like at least a /27 or preferably a /26 from us.
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>> We only have a /21 worth of space from ARIN.
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>> Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 09:29:05 -0600
>> From: Simon Westlake <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Static IP Pricing
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>> When I was at TWC, we would give out up to a /24 to a customer if they
>> could justify it. Beyond that, we'd push them to go to ARIN. This was on
>> fiber, if they were on coax, it was super expensive (like $50+ for a /29)
>>
>> There was list pricing on the static IPs, but it was one of the first
>> things to be discounted in negotiation. That being said, this was ~7
>> years ago. I would look at what it will cost you to buy a /24 on the
>> auction block, and charge enough to be able to replace your IPs as you
>> run out - that would be the simplest justification. It's hard to compare
>> to AT&T, as they probably have a lot of unused space, and a lot more
>> resources to be able to obtain more.
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>> On 2/2/2017 9:20 AM, Colton Conor wrote:
>>> Agreed, but I need to be able to justify this pricing somehow. What
>>> does AT&T charge if you get their Fiber MIS product? Is it unlimited
>>> with justification or what? What are most fiber providers doing even
>>> the ones that have extremely large blocks?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 9:14 AM, Tim Way <[email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>
>>>       Life in IPv4 is getting more expensive as scarcity increases.
>>>
>>>       On Feb 2, 2017 9:13 AM, "Colton Conor" <[email protected]
>>>       <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>
>>>           So a /26 has 64 total IPs, but only 62 are useable. So you are
>>>           saying you would charge $5 - $10 per IP times 62 IPs? The cost
>>>           of their statics would then cost more than the actual service?
>>>
>>>           On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 8:44 AM, Scott Pope
>>>           <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>
>>>               We charge $8.50 per month/per IP for our Static IP
>>>               addresses.  This has been our pricing for 10+ years.
>>>
>>>
>>>               --
>>>               Scott Pope
>>>               Network and Operations Officer
>>>               Arbuckle Communications, LLC
>>>               Office: 580-226-1234 <tel:%28580%29%20226-1234>
>>>               Mobile: 580-277-1108 <tel:%28580%29%20277-1108>
>>>               [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>               www.arbucklecomm.com <http://www.arbucklecomm.com>
>>>               /*"We Are Built For Business"
>>>               */
>>>
>>>
>>>               On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 7:16 AM, Troy Gibson, Byhalia.net
>>>               <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                   $5/month/IP
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                   Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>>
>>>                   -------- Original message --------
>>>                   From: Judd Dare <[email protected]
>>>                   <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>                   Date: 2/1/17 9:28 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>>                   To: WISPA General List <[email protected]
>>>                   <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>                   Subject: Re: [WISPA] Static IP Pricing
>>>
>>>                   Typical cost is around $1-2/IP/Month with various
>>>                   fiber providers.
>>>
>>>                   I've been planning to charge something like
>>>                   $10-20/IP/Mo for commercial in order to only sell to
>>>                   people who really need it.
>>>
>>>                   On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 7:22 PM, Colton Conor
>>>                   <[email protected]
>>>                   <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                       How much do you charge business customers for
>>>                       static IPs?
>>>
>>>                       Comcast Business class cable internet charges
>>>                       *1 - $14.95/mo.*
>>>                       * 5 - $19.95/mo*
>>>                       * 13 - $34.95/mo*.
>>>
>>>                       What do fiber providers charge?
>>>
>>>                       I have a potential client that currently has a /27
>>>                       with his current provider, and would like at least
>>>                       a /27 or preferably a /26 from us.
>>>
>>>                       We only have a /21 worth of space from ARIN.
>>>
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