How is using what you pay for abuse? In both instances described, the customer is using a large chunk of their bandwidth, but not using more than the plan alots.
---- On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 12:55:10 -0500 van...@sigscale.com wrote ---- Good story. This is the stuff that people don't understand. Policy enforcement is good for everyone, including the enforcee! Net neutrality, as imagined by it's staunch supporters, is a really bad idea. They imagine it's about "big corporate" stifling competition and innovation but the very real everyday impact of real "neutrality" would be normal people suffering poor service so the geeky few could pay less for their consumption and no back pressure on abuse. On Dec 15, 2017 21:34, "Kris McElroy" <kmcel...@threesixtycomm.net> wrote: I would agree with Adair, Torrent is a non-issue for us. We have seen more complaints from Windows Update and Xbox Live Updates impacting customers connections, meaning they call in and say “I am paying for 20 Meg service and when I run a speed test I am only seeing 2 Meg Down or wny is my Netflix buffering”. We go and look and they will have a windows update running in the background taking 18-19 Meg of their connection up and you have to explain that to them, same way with Xbox accept all our gamers have our 50 Meg plan and it will chew up 30 to 40 Meg downloading an update or game. Luckily, we can manage this with our Procera now so we don’t hear from customers as much. Kris McElroy From: <wireless-boun...@wispa.org> on behalf of Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net> Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> Date: Friday, December 15, 2017 at 9:51 AM To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality & bandwidth providers Fair how? ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Vance Shipley" <van...@sigscale.com> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 9:43:31 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality & bandwidth providers Because it's the fair thing to do. As a neighbour I would greatly appreciate it. On Dec 15, 2017 21:05, "Mike Hammett" <wispawirel...@ics-il.net> wrote: Why? ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 11:04:43 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality & bandwidth providers I want to be able to throttle torrent users. Beyond that, I don't think it will affect us much in areas of high-competition. Rory -----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 6:57 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality & bandwidth providers On 12/10/17 2:44 PM, Chadwick Wachs wrote: > What are the current thoughts on the effects of net neutrality being > over turned on our bandwidth providers? I understand how the cable and > DSL companies may react but as a small WISP, I've been thinking this > will have little impact on us and our customers (since we don't intend > on changing our policies) but I may not be thinking about the bigger > picture enough. Perhaps my bandwidth and upstream fiber providers will > raise rates or charge premium fees for fast lanes to middle mile access. Nothing. It wasn't mayhem in the decades before 2015 and it won't suddenly become a problem now. The big guys are always going to try some crap until someone calls them on it, "net neutrality" or not. _______________________________________________ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless _______________________________________________ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless _______________________________________________ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless _______________________________________________ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless _______________________________________________ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless _______________________________________________ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
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