Thank you Robert,
You've made some excellent points here.
Your insight is valuable. Cheers....
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert S. Sfeir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of list witango-talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: XML is change
> On 6/18/02 1:06 PM, "Scott Cadillac"
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> wrote:
>
> > Hi Robert,
> >
> >>> Reliable and consistant server-side XSLT for all platforms has not
> > arrived
> >>> yet in my opinion. Plus I'm waiting for pre-emptive threading for use
> > with
> >>> Witango and to see what XSL support may be available to us in the
future.
> >>
> >> If you use Java, I can't agree with that comment. JAXP was just
released
> >> recently into final production, so has the Web Services standards for
> > Java.
> >> The threading model is also a non issue with Java.
> >
> > But I'm not using Java. I use Witango. So, you've added to my point -
thank
> > you:-)
>
> Actually I was making the point that though you might be using WiTango,
you
> can STILL use java. Last I checked JavaBeans was supported and alive in
> WiTango and it all worked really well. So there is no reason why the 2
> could not be combined since a JavaBean can handle the processing of the
XML
> to XSLT also. Further you seem to forget about the JAS server which also
> allows you to do lots of stuff like that.
>
> >
> >
> >>> As far as client-side XSLT goes - I view the arrival of Mozilla 1.0 to
> > be an
> >>> important one. Mozilla's gold status may not noticably influence the
> > mighty
> >>> gods of MSIE, but I think it will sway all the other browser makers to
> > get
> >>> their ducks in a row by measuring their product capabilities against
> >>> Mozilla's performance. Mozilla is a serious competitor - not to MSIE,
> > but
> >>> all the other browsers.
> >>
> >> Yep, yet another reason why I don't believe in MS stuff, I have to see
> > them
> >> implement a standard from A-Z without adding more funky stuff on their
> > own.
> >
> > I support Standards too, but lets face it - they take too long to
finalize!
> > So that funky stuff is called innovation while waiting for everyone else
to
> > play catch-up.
> >
> > Sorry - just teasing :-) But the wait for standards can take so long
that
> > they border on more harm than good.
>
> True, no argument there, they DO take sometimes TOO long to get going, my
> position on that is start using them and change them if and when you need
to
> and the standard is out. Usually things are not that far off.
>
> >
> >
> >>>
> >>> Like developers used to say about Java - I only want to write my XML
> > once
> >>> and deploy it across many platforms :-)
> >>
> >> What do you mean? We STILL say that. Hence my opinion in the first
> >> paragraph.
> >
> > Here's an excerpt from today's www.byte.com Java Resources section.
> >
> > (Portable at the byte code level, but only to the extent that different
> > implementations of the Java VM are compatible with each other. The
promise
> > is "Write once, run anywhere." The reality is "Write once, test
> > everywhere." )
>
> Yeah their has been a lot of that... But please don't confuse this issue
> with GUI issues, and by GUI I mean Swing/AWT issues which carry from
> platform to platform. I have yet to have a problem with server side
> implementations of Java where I couldn't take a servlet and just move it
to
> another server, just like I can with WiTango-based applications. I move
my
> javabeans from any platform TO any platform that WiTango supports and I
> never ever have to write anything twice.
>
>
> R
>
> --
> Robert S. Sfeir
> Senior Java Engineer
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